From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Correspondence between web-pages and Info-pages Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419958566 446 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2014 16:56:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Kelly Dean" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 30 17:55:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y605O-0002DU-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:55:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37453 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y605N-0001WS-DW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:55:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38775) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y605K-0001Vu-NW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:55:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y605F-0001yk-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:57136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y605F-0001yd-Jo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:55:49 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsPAOwQflRFpY0B/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQcCAR+QbweESAWLAZIxj3OCCoF4hBkhgncBAQE X-IPAS-Result: AjsPAOwQflRFpY0B/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQcCAR+QbweESAWLAZIxj3OCCoF4hBkhgncBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="104171135" Original-Received: from 69-165-141-1.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.141.1]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 30 Dec 2014 11:55:48 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 16E77660FB; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:55:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Kelly Dean's message of "Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:17:45 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180891 Archived-At: > Don't overlook two important parts of this: using the same name both for > user input and for display, That's good, yes, but is a UI issue which can be fixed regardless of Info-vs-HTML-vs-whateverelse and regardless of which kind of names we use. IOW it's unrelated to the discussion at hand. You can just `M-x report-emacs-bug' and you/we can fix those issues. > and using different names for different formats > of a page (Info vs. HTML). No: I specifically don't want to use different names for different formats. Instead I want to use a single name that works both in your web-browser and in Emacs, and that gives the best experience possible in both cases (i.e. in a web-browser it needs to be HTML, and inside Emacs it would have to be Info for now and maybe some HTML-Info in some future). Stefan