From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 2056db3: Rationalize use of c[ad]+r, expunging cl-c[ad]\{3, 4\}r. Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:03:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150405125047.6847.66246@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20150406100840.GA2589@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428325721 29286 80.91.229.3 (6 Apr 2015 13:08:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 06 15:08:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yf6lT-0000sy-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:08:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yf6lT-0005IF-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:08:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yf6lI-0004ui-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:08:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yf6gD-0002lw-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:33736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yf6gD-0002lo-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t36D32hg013338; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C7015AE118; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:03:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20150406100840.GA2589@acm.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:08:40 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5268=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5268> : inlines <2614> : streams <1417938> : uri <1899783> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185029 Archived-At: >> > * emacs-lisp/cl-lib.el (cl-caaar, etc): Rename to caaar, etc. >> This is wrong. cl-lib's definitions should *all* start with "cl-". > Hmmm. `cl-cdaar' is a nonsense. `eudc-cdaar' even more so. They > _must_ simply be `cdaar', surely? There are enough instances of these > functions in the code to matter (~311). No, there's nothing wrong with "cl-cXXXr". > Perhaps the answer is to put them somewhere other than cl*.el. Maybe > not subr.el, but perhaps some other similar place? If you want them without "cl-" then they need to go to subr.el. As I said, I'm not yet convinced it's a good idea, but I'm not necessarily dead set against it. Stefan