From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interest in nt_load_image? Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:50:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86369r0xcv.fsf@csic.es> <83k1324m60.fsf@gnu.org> <86imimwa4t.fsf@csic.es> <838sji3qhx.fsf@gnu.org> <86lfnhsyei.fsf@csic.es> <83v9ml3kpx.fsf@gnu.org> <86r1x9rf7w.fsf@csic.es> <86zhbx6jh1.fsf@csic.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="109162"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Juan =?windows-1252?Q?Jos=E9_Garc=EDa-Ripoll?= , Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 31 16:53:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIGD-000SIG-QV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 16:53:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39418 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIGC-0001YY-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55167) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIEI-0006DN-L0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIEH-0000E3-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:52917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIEG-0000DN-VG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:51:01 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 018A1809A1; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6389880D80; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:50:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1585666253; bh=GsVQa41cKzzKZ4VHc2EtBNARS/GyM6hyDbs8x//eFe8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=YmTIq6q85Jfq2lW2dP6pBpJtYqqlcPznnJuWpjPs1Fwer4o2vjCS7sVNXBjKikWcx zDawpcXtPbhVAn0hYRVIDcVJq7QJAuNPr8B6EKkM1gjAu+NZzOFCjyZ782Kk1yLx5o y4HmrDkWAjsFKEGMIx1LxMkPct2HkStJfINzGrjTopilnD9cadS0vf6VIym0LSyfZz ysxAlPVzvZjuQFQXB/SGg1p7QmJMqDePMriM9kk0Ip8d0DIdGb11g8KfucA+vBrcof ihi0XUR3M6QTnD/MLS1dcWOl9flqoRBsMNyoeWEAOxBFfCyzfVXf8Oyju9g9Z3ZJ6T VOA5GXGm2+m/A== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.114]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1FF0120432; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:50:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 15:14:01 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246103 Archived-At: > We still want to support Windows 9X. Do we? Do you know (of) someone using a recentish Emacs on Windows 9X? >> We cannot do this at compile time, because we still try supporting >> ancient Windows versions where GDI+ is not available. Moreover, I >> think it's good to let users have the ability to decide dynamically >> which image display capability they want. It certainly makes sense to >> do that initially, while the GDI+ way is being tested in all kinds of >> real-life use cases. >> So all the compile-time tests will have to be rewritten as run-time >> tests, and we should provide variables to force Emacs use/not use >> GDI+, perhaps at image format granularity, and expose those variables >> to Lisp, so users could control that. > > Did I misunderstand him? Yes, he described the extra efforts that we should spend to try and provide support for those hypothetical Windows 9X users out there. I think that is very likely to be a waste, so I think we should first do the easy thing and *if/when* someone comes complaining that it doesn't work on Windows 9X then we can revisit this decision. Stefan