From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:24:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87lfgciy9f.fsf@igel.home> <87sgajy9qp.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6971"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ricardo Wurmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 19:25:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kS1a0-0001hX-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 19:25:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37304 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kS1Zz-0007y7-K5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:25:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kS1Yx-0007EA-Us for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:24:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kS1Yv-0004ZB-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:24:43 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6F93D80B46; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1DBCE8009D; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:24:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602523479; bh=VjAyZELwboeSvV452rtsD3gmpmZIEut9Vsu8gJ0PhP8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ty2e8biX6mgzAnNUWbMfxq5Br5NtsxzoqLLCoP7lEkhyS+eOx8r3X+CrsKyqZJJIr Rhp3lBTlx6etSeVF3wJaGOdCOtlprMuymTCZG/zYq2qg7eXhudJ6VefuXXOUvNWhcQ 2HxukCnmzFk2n7zije+s4ux3a5wFxLxknEFW2jDCv21iFpoMyko9QTEFxmSZ2rpwU/ 3+d3gHneSUxRYP+j5OctXtM2O0wXFG3Q2t5Yrrr15zqpHhNmnI3VQ1cJ5Rh6BbeBbd SdCeiHiALX2+bGqlRPYVuhXHVibiza+rlz08iaZN5pXivbuPHCbjtFzS2sZevMJ9dL WZ1o6aEF++Clw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E37471203BC; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:24:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sgajy9qp.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:17:02 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/12 13:24:40 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257487 Archived-At: > mu4e=E2=80=99s *mu4e-headers* buffer has a header line (=E2=80=9CDate=E2= =80=9D, =E2=80=9CFlgs=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9CList=E2=80=9D, > =E2=80=9CFrom=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9CSubject=E2=80=9D), which no longer lines= up with the contents of the > buffer when the mode-line face inherits from variable-pitch. > > I suspect that other packages would suffer from the same problem (and we No need to use the conditional: this already affects all users who have changed their `header-line` (such as yours truly). The best course of action is to file bug reports for every such case. Stefan