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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	 Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar@batsov.dev>,
	 akater <nuclearspace@gmail.com>,
	 Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Codifying some aspects of Elisp code style and improving pretty printer
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 11:26:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1r54rcxc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6js253t.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Fri, 01 Oct 2021 16:26:46 +0200")

> Apropos, I believe the current recommendation is to do
>     (mapconcat #'identity seqs " ")
> rather than
>     (mapconcat 'identity seqs " ")
> ie function-quoting the argument to mapconcat, apply, mapc etc, but

Indeed, the main benefit being that the byte-compiler can warn you if
the function is not known to be defined (typically because of a typo or
a missing `require`).

A side benefit is that it "does the right thing" for `cl-flet` and friends.

> 1. The elisp manual doesnʼt say that in (info "(elisp) Mapping Functions")

Not sure that'd be the best place, but we should probably adjust the
manual to encourage the use of #' to quote function names,

> 2. Emacs' code itself doesnʼt do that consistently

The difference is sufficiently unimportant that I don't see a need to
try and make it consistent in this respect.  E.g. I do change 'foo to
#'foo quite often, but only as part of other changes.

> (and we have the odd #'(lambda ...) as well

I don't see anything wrong with #'(lambda...)
[ I personally prefer to skip the #' to make the code (marginally)
  shorter, but it's purely a matter of taste and I usually try and
  refrain from making this change in existing code unless it helps make
  the code fit into 80 columns.  ]

> 3. The byte compiler doesnʼt warn about it.

Mine does ;-)
But I wouldn't want to enable such a warning by default (or at least it
should be mess a bit less eager than it is, because of the occasional false
positives).

> I believe it helps the byte-compiler generate better code, but donʼt
> know what the actual effect is.

It has no effect on the generated code.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-01 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 18:01 Codifying some aspects of Elisp code style and improving pretty printer akater
2021-09-30  7:02 ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 11:26   ` Bozhidar Batsov
2021-09-30 15:15     ` akater
2021-10-01  7:05       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-01 14:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-01 14:43           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-01 14:26         ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-01 15:26           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-10-01 16:15             ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-01 17:08               ` Stefan Monnier

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