From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 91418d27e9: Add new functions for computing character metrics for windows Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:47:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <165123811050.20687.5215165731843845332@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220429131511.9BD62C01683@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87v8usc7wz.fsf@gnus.org> <83czgzacfk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilqq4yfc.fsf@gnus.org> <837d768ywx.fsf@gnu.org> <8335hu8uey.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuaa7dd4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21411"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, malsburg@posteo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 23:49:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nkuyH-0005Nf-Oe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:49:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51580 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nkuyG-0007hg-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:49:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nkuwR-0006xD-UW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:47:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:16489) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nkuwP-0005CD-1i; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:47:50 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3E2804424FE; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1495A4424FC; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:47:46 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1651355266; bh=vkk1IV7icyoq2q+QNQR0PiswFY2lRaac8W5bBAp72po=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=SY11KxTm/kW0QK59Ly62ogX69B/z/UmM8WXVrVHoZE7fQh6UrqA3djnPhR72g1B58 SF+s1i4V35NyB6TgAkwFr4P57wxfEZ089zXpeoF4CShFKI3D6w3fvPkygPED1KsIP2 L+wWtPML7k1LgHaPZ/SZ2UqYwnYVAoWv4atXoHeRY5T9dHP8vBZBYoa/JwPq6UAcak EScDxr48PgA1pl4NYoWRkFgi6zEtQxc0NSk0IYRNQhinpPxSPTYKPGTiOaWAbNndRD UDOmRa2EJUADqtCWna6vuo76VXfboH79Uw4zEmgfxAxVlCMUDcjCcj/5g15EELuTqY rusVPkl6tW7fw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C90DA1204F0; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:47:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83tuaa7dd4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Apr 2022 19:19:35 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289068 Archived-At: >> (e.g. because of hi-lock, goto-address-mode, you name it). >> So you're saying that in practice most uses are "a mistake". > > That's not the use case this function supports. It supports the use > case where some Lisp program produces text under its control, and > wants to know how much of the text can be put on a single screen line. hi-lock and goto-address-mode are minor modes; they can apply just as well to that "produced text under its control". > The way it's exposed reflects the needs of the use cases it serves. Oh well, Stefan