From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master e8488bcc9c: Avoid having font locking triggering unnecessary auto-saving Date: Sat, 07 May 2022 13:21:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <165191796540.22789.3432288633082546349@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220507100605.B7CA7C051FF@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <83ilqhxr1b.fsf@gnu.org> <83czgpxpmd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7657"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 07 19:23:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nnO97-0001mj-77 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 19:23:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52776 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnO95-0001eU-W8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 13:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnO7p-0000S6-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 13:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:49943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnO7m-0004he-N9; Sat, 07 May 2022 13:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 47B61100280; Sat, 7 May 2022 13:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CEF5D100138; Sat, 7 May 2022 13:21:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1651944102; bh=cmuX1j2AmWkRNFF3F9mWwt7tECUcIhMspk603fRnBI8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=lAxpjMlj5Mg6i4CPOJINQgZEx8ntVtUyxj4gkxWDBPcYQ8I4WM+lZjiCHq/e0QAo4 fqcs1zB6DBNAjFy/SMeHB2bnUKGocVHouRhDN3jzRtxjaQJZp0liyCd9VboI422US5 kMESF53/zOC7FCkJuD9khnhiUSUTirz/UKCVVUp/86F3HQ7NnYHbFaswb3wGZfyp6R CouvN0sqxhklLPiDJxl5DCII9A/UDH6TQfr5BcsPUOBD/wEcLQUQ8tpTMbm9DhWApo Ua7X/rVmvciA72je3L1FD7gTvQaTLcKHz9pF/ctXeLvJA38Zd8kSLEBbtKcMe14w8d EuDCNhp23lwDQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C9AC1202BD; Sat, 7 May 2022 13:21:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83czgpxpmd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 07 May 2022 19:40:42 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289416 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii [2022-05-07 19:40:42] wrote: > Not good enough: auto-saving is a critical feature, and I object to > changes that could make it less reliable, because it could mean users > will lose their edits. By contrast, with-silent-modifications is just > a convenience device, to avoid annoying users with redundant "changes" > of the buffer. Your call. The change to `with-silent-modifications` can similarly break auto-save, of course. > What practical problem do you want to solve by that change in > auto-save? The motivation for the change makes me think that the change I propose might be closer to the ideal. Stefan