From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 09:30:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83edvqafr7.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsg6m5zx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83mtaeys7k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7uukngi.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83a66czz5q.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtacyfvl.fsf@gnu.org> <835yh0yc75.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 04 16:12:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofifG-0000xZ-PT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 16:12:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60198 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofifF-00054l-Kh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 10:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofhzu-0007Gp-R9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 09:30:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:40108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofhzt-0000j2-6S; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 09:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1D85C100130; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 09:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 874D01000D0; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 09:30:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1664890204; bh=6slC4wW/Hp+dPnk6g8s8LOXPLfprCcF1bbU82kS0ZWQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=X2H0LAIJInT/6YBGm2PtOvfXm99G2vkIvYseIHgpoXi1qxQ3IJ+r9h145IaZ7JCYq IZ0uusE1paipe3oHQeVZ1x2fM/N0G2bk90WHC2fq6tPfRdN3bTaTURylVCG2g57PU6 e1pGtKh1cUXdyTBYNIxCK7RaZGkQHqU6/ybVnXkTboQJ+ykH4WvIP+gbAlkiPTMMzM 7bnfTQYUZ7ClUcD7tJazPDc9VOo6OWEzgHtYF2AonexQNtznuYjBBmZreeRVgu9ZfN mv+J/i8HHWkGlz0gini5lknm8gYJRgjPenoX6/7xXtbn2d4+Bm21pSXGcoiF5uaft5 Vt9MuO0ojTj7Q== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45932120EAC; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 09:30:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 3 Oct 2022 23:58:28 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296879 Archived-At: > I don't see that the situation has substantially improved, though I'm of > course happy to hear that Stefan M remains optimistic. Seen from the K-side, the glass is half full, but I'm on the M-side where I see it as half-empty. Stefan