From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default Emacs keybindings Date: 05 May 2004 18:20:49 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040502211541.GA26227@fencepost> <85y8oa6nwi.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <87n04paner.fsf@peder.flower> <200405032259.i43MxkP13454@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200405042135.i44LZtI21437@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200405051429.i45ETwY26015@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083798477 2456 80.91.224.253 (5 May 2004 23:07:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 23:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu May 06 01:07:46 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BLVUQ-0002Mb-00 for ; Thu, 06 May 2004 01:07:46 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BLVUP-0006Kl-00 for ; Thu, 06 May 2004 01:07:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BLVTD-0006pX-ID for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 05 May 2004 19:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BLVGJ-0003IJ-Kp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2004 18:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BLV8P-00017l-IN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2004 18:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.30) id 1BLV4Y-0008Ss-T4; Wed, 05 May 2004 18:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.245.84.69] (helo=colo.agora-net.com) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BLUm6-0001Mf-Bu; Wed, 05 May 2004 18:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by colo.agora-net.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1BLUkz-0003Uq-00; Wed, 05 May 2004 18:20:49 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: Luc Teirlinck's message of "Wed, 5 May 2004 09:29:58 -0500 (CDT)" Original-Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22824 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22824 Luc Teirlinck writes: Eli Zaretskii wrote: I was talking about logging _into_ a machine where you remapped the keys. What I was talking about was: Use xmodmap on your local machine. thus, you are talking past each other. that's ok, too -- friends share a parallel view of sorts, according to some Writer. probably if the simple cases can be solved independently, those more complex cases that combine these simple cases can also be solved, if not by side-effect, then through complexity reduction. trying to solve the composed problems is like painting a tree starting w/ the leaves -- no doubt a skilled painter can make the result beautiful, but that's a lot of extra work involved! thi