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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@glug.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer
Date: 11 Jun 2002 17:00:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jk8z5lttss.fsf@glug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: "Robert J. Chassell"'s message of "Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:15:32 +0000 (UTC)"

"Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com> writes:

   Whether it is more useful depends on your goal.

the goal is to act in an exemplery fashion, to demonstrate the path taken.

   But for my primary audience, this series of keystrokes fails; it is
   like a magic catenation that does the job, but you don't learn the
   physics.  My audience need to learn that there is a `dir' file.  They
   need to learn that you can go from the dir file to a specific Info
   file; and that in the Info file, you can go to a specific node.  And
   they need to be inspired to do this.

chunking issue: "(emacs)Top" is fine for top-level, but for deeper nodes, say
"(emacs)Mode Line", the path can be represented:

  C-h i
  m Emacs RET
  m Mode Line RET

so, to show this just requires some "info-follow-path-slowly" that does the
equivalent of

  (info "(emacs)Mode Line")

w/ a pause in between each step and a nice message saying "you can do this
yourself next time".  then, the "link data" is just ("Emacs" "Mode Line") and
you can tell people:

  (info-follow-path-slowly "Emacs" "Mode Line")

working sketch below.

(as for how to inspire people, just set the default `sit-for' values to beyond
normal patience threshold.  this is the stick part, using emacs is the carrot.
;-)

thi


___________________________________________________________
(defun info-follow-path-slowly (&rest path)
  (info)
  ;; TODO: get back to top-level somehow
  (message "this is the dir file")
  (sit-for 5)
  (while path
    (let ((name (car path)))
      (re-search-forward (concat "^* " name))
      (message "next, we're going to go to ``%s''" name)
      (sit-for 5)
      (Info-menu name)
      (message "ok, now we're at ``%s''" name)
      (sit-for 5))
    (setq path (cdr path)))
  (message "we're here -- everyone to the bathroom!"))

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-11 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-06 18:32 Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Romain FRANCOISE
2002-06-06 23:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-07 23:22 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-08  0:52   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-08 21:39     ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-06-08 22:08       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-06-08 22:30       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-09  4:11         ` Miles Bader
2002-06-09 10:56           ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-09  5:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-10 13:59         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 16:46           ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 17:28             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 20:50               ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 22:18                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-10 22:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11 11:15                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-11 21:00                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2002-06-11  5:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-10 20:58               ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 21:52                 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11  9:36               ` Andreas Schwab
2002-06-10 19:57             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-11 19:25             ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-11 20:01               ` Jason Rumney
2002-06-11 23:45                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-12 12:14                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 22:15                     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-13 21:46                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 23:22                         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-19 13:10                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-19 15:02                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-21 21:40                               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-21 23:56                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-21  9:40                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 15:34                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-13 17:17                     ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found]             ` <200206130905.g5D95ie06537@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-06-13 11:36               ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-13 23:18                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-14 15:47                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-17 19:28             ` Patch for emacs-lisp-intro.texi Christian Egli
2002-06-11 19:25           ` Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Richard Stallman
2002-06-09 23:04       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-10 10:15       ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10 10:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-09 15:18     ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-09 15:58       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-09 23:38       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-10 23:43         ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10  5:14       ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-10  5:24         ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10 23:43         ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-11  0:12           ` Miles Bader
2002-06-11  5:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11  7:05             ` Miles Bader
2002-06-11 13:20               ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-12  2:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 10:33                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-12 23:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 13:20                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-14 15:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-14 19:00                         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-12  2:32               ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12  2:53                 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-12 18:21                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-12 21:36               ` Alex Schroeder
2002-06-11  4:17           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-11  5:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11 15:26               ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-09  5:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-07 13:35 David Ponce
2002-06-07 13:56 David Ponce

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