From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:31:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <003801c89a85$fcd95ad0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <003d01c89a8f$2899fb80$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207816808 23448 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2008 08:40:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 10 10:40:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjsKl-0006se-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:40:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjsK7-0005s3-FF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjsK2-0005pY-PX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:39:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjsJz-0005kt-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjsJz-0005ke-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjsCO-0003R3-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JjsCO-0003HM-Hj for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjsCD-0003MB-4n for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjsCA-0003Jh-4V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Relay2.suse.de (mail2.suse.de [195.135.221.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CD644FAE; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:31:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: I'm having a tax-deductible experience! I need an energy crunch!! In-Reply-To: <003d01c89a8f$2899fb80$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed\, 9 Apr 2008 15\:15\:02 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94855 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21954 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> > This is is not a good idea. `insert-parentheses' and >> > `move-past-close-and-reindent' should be bound only for programming >> > modes for which they actually make sense. =20 >>=20 >> Inserting pairs of parentheses makes sense pretty much everywhere. > > Of course inserting parentheses can make sense in many contexts. These = bindings > do not, however. It's about the bindings, not about inserting parens: y= ou can > insert parentheses without these bindings. But they won't be automatically balanced. This is exactly what the bindings are about, and why they are useful everywhere. Andreas. --=20 Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstra=DFe 5, 90409 N=FCrnberg, Germany PGP key fingerprint =3D 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED= 5 "And now for something completely different."