From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:23:27 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050074747 21075 80.91.224.249 (11 Apr 2003 15:25:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 11 17:25:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1940Op-0005PR-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:25:07 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1940UK-0005kk-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:30:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940PF-00048C-0C for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:25:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940Op-00046C-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940On-00045o-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ns.suse.de ([213.95.15.193] helo=Cantor.suse.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940NG-0002yI-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [213.95.15.136]) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13154149E0; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:23:30 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-Yow: Where's my SOCIAL WORKER? In-Reply-To: <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann's?= message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:02:20 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090017 (Oort Gnus v0.17) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: Luc Teirlinck Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: otaylor@redhat.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13156 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13156 kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: |> Luc Teirlinck writes: |> |> > There is some "precision work" required, no doubt about that. You |> > have to drag slowly and carefully, you can not just "yank". |> |> Dragging the thumb to the beginning of the buffer does not require |> precision work. So it would be nice if it wouldn't require precision |> work for dragging to the end of the buffer, either. I don't see a problem here. From Emacs' POV the buffer is scrolled to the far end if (point-max) equals (window-start). The fact that this is further than what other editors can achieve only shows the superiority of Emacs. :-) You'll always need precision to position to a specific position except the beginning of buffer. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de SuSE Linux AG, Deutschherrnstr. 15-19, D-90429 Nürnberg Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."