From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-conservatively default Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:36:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200712020048.lB20mS9R002812@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200712032120.lB3LKwJ1003309@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85odd4qdsx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196941039 10988 80.91.229.12 (6 Dec 2007 11:37:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Leo , Miles Bader To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 06 12:37:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J0F2m-00052O-Gw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:37:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0F2V-0004Qx-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:37:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J0F2Q-0004Qs-PF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J0F2P-0004QL-5Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0F2P-0004QD-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:37:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J0F26-0006f5-RF; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:36:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Relay1.suse.de (mail2.suse.de [195.135.221.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8735D2C7ED; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:36:44 +0100 (CET) X-Yow: Now my EMOTIONAL RESOURCES are heavily committed to 23% of the SMELTING and REFINING industry of the state of NEVADA!! In-Reply-To: <85odd4qdsx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 06 Dec 2007 12\:10\:22 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84788 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Being able to make the material one needs to view as a unit appear on > the screen painlessly is one of the most important and frequent > operations for a screen editor. > > Emacs' keybindings in connection with the scrolling behavior don't help > (vi has extra keybindings C-e and C-y for scrolling without moving > point). I have this since ages: (defun scroll-up-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (scroll-up n)) (defun scroll-down-in-place (n) (interactive "p") (scroll-down n)) (define-key global-map [(shift next)] 'scroll-up-in-place) (define-key global-map [(shift prior)] 'scroll-down-in-place) Andreas. --=20 Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstra=DFe 5, 90409 N=FCrnberg, Germany PGP key fingerprint =3D 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED= 5 "And now for something completely different."