From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r104691: Don't reuse previous Message-id when resending. Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:28:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mxh37nfp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r56f10jd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4E093222.3060302@gmail.com> <83pqlyslyd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309268324 2649 80.91.229.12 (28 Jun 2011 13:38:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:38:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 15:38:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QbYUw-0003JD-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:38:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43425 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbYUu-0004d3-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbYOm-00037E-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbYOk-0002bX-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:33847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbYOk-0002bR-NG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QbYOg-0008HV-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:32:10 +0200 Original-Received: from cpc10-harb6-0-0-cust112.perr.cable.virginmedia.com ([92.232.137.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:32:10 +0200 Original-Received: from usr.vm.rocks by cpc10-harb6-0-0-cust112.perr.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:32:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc10-harb6-0-0-cust112.perr.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 In-Reply-To: <83pqlyslyd.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141121 Archived-At: On 6/28/2011 3:56 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Who's talking about _reuse_? The use case is that the original > message didn't get sent. There's no reuse; there's a single message > with an ID that never saw the light of day before. If the original message didn't get sent, there is no issue at all. Richard's problem was that it got partially sent to some of the recipients. These recipients then received a second (retried) copy of the same message at a later date and got "confused". Richard is trying to help these confused mail clients. That is the use case. By the way, if my mail client got confused in that way, I would regard it as a bug and fix it, not force the senders to change their software. > Now, can we _please_ stop this silly thread?? Multiple copies of messages floating around the cyberspace with different message ID's is a form of pollution. The gnu servers are partly responsible for this. The gnu newsgroups and mailing lists are full of broken threads as a result. Richard's decision makes the problem slightly worse. But it has been pretty bad already. Cheers, Uday