From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el should be preloaded Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:57:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8htyk6zrvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1288252672 1310 80.91.229.12 (28 Oct 2010 07:57:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:57:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 28 09:57:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PBNMt-0008Ac-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:57:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37439 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PBNMt-0005EK-21 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53661 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PBNMi-0005DX-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:57:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PBNMg-0002bi-JI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:57:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:59180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PBNMg-0002bX-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:57:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PBNMf-0006Jy-Qr; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:57:37 -0400 X-Spook: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Mossad Downing Street enemy of the X-Ran: y:kYY\>C';NxV-v,%jo!}LJI1g7anE/Xu%g1a#L]1<(4l]+0Yf:)T)U],-w,y`~'&ze;/; X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <8htyk6zrvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu\, 28 Oct 2010 03\:41\:14 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132159 Archived-At: This was briefly mentioned before http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-06/msg00634.html But it is loaded in every normal startup, whether or not I have any packages installed. Surely it is impossible to tell if I have any packages to load without loading package.el to search for them; so I don't see any reason not to preload it.