From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:22:47 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <83fwix2osa.fsf@gnu.org> <834nzd2eil.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318526592 22373 80.91.229.12 (13 Oct 2011 17:23:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:23:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 19:23:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REOzp-0006FY-Jc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:23:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40247 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REOzp-0007mY-53 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REOzm-0007mT-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REOzl-0007dO-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:47951) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REOzk-0007dF-RM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:23:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REOzj-0006DL-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:22:59 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:22:59 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:22:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sjUcVs4r82DmSKutRpi6tGrAlIM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145151 Archived-At: Carsten Mattner writes: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Stefan Monnier > wrote: >> PS: BTW, since you use erlang-mode: could you get someone from the >>    erlang-mode developers to contact me in order to include it in Emacs >>    (I've tried several times but got no answer). > > I must admit that I prefer to have haskell-mode and erlang-mode > be not part of Emacs' repo. > I find it favorable to have an up-to-date custom-managed or > package.el managed version. > For example with cc-mode, if Alan didn't agree to update it > soon in Emacs bzr, I was about to build and use a copy > in ~/.emacs.d. > > In summary: we shouldn't try to add more big packages to Emacs, > especially not such which see more frequent releases than Emacs. > We have package support for a reason, don't we? > > I will contact the erlang-mode maintainer, just to let him know, > though. Whats to stop you installing the latest versions regardless of whether it ships basic emacs? Far better for commonly used modes to ship with emacs for fallback in case the newer versions are hosed for that version of emacs for whatever reason.