From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with info (emacs version) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:23:04 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306020333.h523XMC23468@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200306030522.h535MWh24584@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200306031349.h53DnIc24803@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054668458 4678 80.91.224.249 (3 Jun 2003 19:27:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 21:27:36 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19NHRX-0001DG-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:27:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19NHim-0000bp-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NHSN-0003Lx-0X for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NHP6-0000XW-ST for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NHOq-00009n-6l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NHNE-0007JW-ST; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h53JN4B4020637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:23:04 +0200 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030603:teirllm@dms.auburn.edu:43a0dd87aef2ad87 X-Hashcash: 0:030603:teirllm@dms.auburn.edu:43a0dd87aef2ad87 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030603:rms@gnu.org:61808ba700e3cb1f X-Hashcash: 0:030603:rms@gnu.org:61808ba700e3cb1f X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030603:emacs-devel@gnu.org:71a73a0a53b7c487 X-Hashcash: 0:030603:emacs-devel@gnu.org:71a73a0a53b7c487 In-Reply-To: <200306031349.h53DnIc24803@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:49:18 -0500 (CDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14650 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14650 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Simon Josefsson wrote: > > I'd say this is a bug in the mail sending part of Emacs. Message asks > the user if she knows about the hidden parts. > > It does not seem to do that in the concrete example I gave. I am not > terribly familiar with message-mode (I use mail-mode), but > message-mode does not seem to check for or ask about the display > property. Perhaps it was added in Gnus 5.10. To clarify: I don't have an opinion on the use of invisible display property in info, but I object to the example that cut'n'paste text from the info buffer into a mail buffer is an example of a problem caused by using the invisible display property in info. Even if info didn't use the invisible display property, the message mode must handle yanking of invisible text. So all the example proof is that the message mode is buggy.