From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/? Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:06:38 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097874469 12108 80.91.229.6 (15 Oct 2004 21:07:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 15 23:07:44 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIZIe-0002Zq-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:07:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CIZPn-0006ZH-IX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CIZPZ-0006XK-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CIZPY-0006VZ-82 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CIZPY-0006V0-35 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CIZHu-0003NF-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIZHu-0006Qv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:06:58 +0200 Original-Received: from c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se ([217.215.27.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:06:58 +0200 Original-Received: from jas by c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:06:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PrLWP1ZoHSYPnIXujOkyViRxP08= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28457 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28457 Stefan Monnier writes: > I agree with the general goal, but just like Miles I think we should be > careful with it. More specifically, I think the change should be done > together with the Gnus team. Right. > One way I see it happen is for the Gnus maintainers to move those file in > their repository to a new directory (call it "util") and treat them as > "files which should be provided by Emacs but which we distribute because > many Emacsen don't have them (yet)". We would have to rewrite the Gnus makefiles to make that possible, which might be harder than it seems. However, it seems that a Gnus Maintenance Guide may be written, then we can mention that these files should only be changed after discussion with the Emacs maintainers. I think that would be sufficient. All the files I mentioned are rather stable, though. They are changed from time to time, but the changes are typically small. Thanks.