From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions? Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:36:33 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021923535 18532 127.0.0.1 (20 May 2002 19:38:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 179szf-0004on-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 21:38:55 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 179tDk-0007C6-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 21:53:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179szx-0004Ey-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 15:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179sxO-00045V-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 15:36:35 -0400 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4KJaWWa029033 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 21:36:33 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4200 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4200 Why does emacs use mouse-2 for activating hyperlinks, buttons etc? I haven't seen any other application doing this, and altough I don't remember what I thought when I started using emacs, I could imagine that a new user would be surprised by this. Does anyone else agree? Does anyone here talk with newbie users and have more insight? I recall one argument; that mouse-1 is used to position point and is therefor already taken. I don't understand the argument, many GUI applications have something similar as "point" and they don't have a problem with using mouse-1 for two things. Another argument on the same theme is that mouse-1 is used to mark text. Again, I don't see the argument, emacs is able to separate the two cases where mouse-1 is simply clicked and when it is used to mark text. Many GUI applications behave differently depending on how you click mouse-1. Proposal: Make mouse-1 do the same as mouse-2 in Info (section links), Help (customize link, back link, variable links, etc), and similar buffers.