From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APOP support in movemail Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:33:08 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <2914-Thu06Nov2003114247+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068122108 11399 80.91.224.253 (6 Nov 2003 12:35:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 06 13:35:06 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHjLu-0006aq-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:35:06 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHjLu-0003lc-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:35:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AHjLD-00075s-Rn for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:34:23 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AHjKo-00070V-6L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:33:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AHjKF-0006r6-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:33:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.13.230.178] (helo=yxa.extundo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AHjKA-0006qT-1A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:33:18 -0500 Original-Received: from latte (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6CXB1K032752; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:33:11 +0100 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031106:eliz@elta.co.il:5c0920239f2a3f49 X-Hashcash: 0:031106:eliz@elta.co.il:5c0920239f2a3f49 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031106:larsi@gnus.org:936038c3cb9b26be X-Hashcash: 0:031106:larsi@gnus.org:936038c3cb9b26be X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031106:emacs-devel@gnu.org:b421b7299bedb457 X-Hashcash: 0:031106:emacs-devel@gnu.org:b421b7299bedb457 In-Reply-To: <2914-Thu06Nov2003114247+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:42:47 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17705 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17705 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> From: Simon Josefsson >> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:50:47 +0100 >> >> Doesn't GNU MailUtils include a POP3 command line client? > > I will look, thanks. However, I need something that can work on > Windows as well as Unix, and prefer non-Cygwin ports. Do you know > about Windows ports of Mailutils? Sorry, I don't. But aren't there build chains that allow you to compile native Windows binaries on Unix? But I'm not familiar with them, though. >> Even if it doesn't, I think it would be better to move the kind of >> functionality movemail provides into GNU MailUtils, instead of >> supporting it in Emacs. > > I'm not sure. From what I've read, adding APOP should not be too > hard, and having movemail in the Emacs distro has a significant > advantage of being able to have a working mail setup with no extra > work beyond installing Emacs. I just fear that adding new features to Emacs movemail will be more difficult than doing the same in MailUtils, where there already is a infrastructure for mail-related stuff. Consider SASL and STARTTLS as two things which are roughly equal to APOP that someone might want sooner or later.