From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:52:03 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200207181644.g6IGiuv11955@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200207191653.g6JGrpV26904@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207191744.g6JHisp16756@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200207202207.g6KM7ux29310@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208090756.g797uTN12006@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208101716.g7AHGwW05971@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200208132246.g7DMkY607187@wijiji.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029325949 30897 127.0.0.1 (14 Aug 2002 11:52:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ewhQ-00082E-00 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:52:28 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17ex6P-0002eQ-00 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:18:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ewiF-0006vJ-00; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17ewh2-0006lT-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17ewh0-0006lA-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ewgy-0006km-00; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7EBpvi2002795; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:51:58 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 020814:rms@gnu.org:4d392d1165b94ff6 X-Hashcash: 020814:emacs-devel@gnu.org:f37151647526ec9d In-Reply-To: <200208132246.g7DMkY607187@wijiji.santafe.edu> (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:46:34 -0600 (MDT)") Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6531 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6531 Richard Stallman writes: > The package allows better network authentication for IMAP (in Gnus), > SMTP (e.g., smtpmail.el) and third party packages (my Sieve package > for instance). > > Would this perhaps replace some existing Emacs packages? Not really. It is a clean modularization of some code that has been done ad-hoc in imap.el and smtpmail.el (and sieve*.el, but that is not part of Emacs). > Should I send a patch? I have not verified all paperwork yet though. > > Do you think that package is cleanly written? That is the main thing > we need to check, and it is fine if you check it for us first. Yes, I like it. It does not depend on any other libraries (self contained), the API is documented in a TEXI manual (it seems incomplete though) and mimics the standardized Java API for SASL. I am using it in my local copies of imap.el and sieve*.el. It is definitely better than having it implemented differently and undocumented in imap.el/smtpmail.el which is the current situation. I'll send the patch, track down papers, and then commit the patch unless someone objects in the meantime.