From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL, MIME-related bug Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:59:07 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310121947.h9CJlhKH006102@oak.pohoyda.family> <6480-Thu16Oct2003192118+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <3405-Thu16Oct2003205828+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <9003-Fri17Oct2003082402+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <87fzhsnkp1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1438-Fri17Oct2003201054+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <87ismj70d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066708996 2516 80.91.224.253 (21 Oct 2003 04:03:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 21 06:03:14 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABnjl-0001L4-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:03:13 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABnjl-0006fY-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:03:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABnge-0004sg-0q for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:00:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ABngZ-0004sa-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:59:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ABng3-0004qW-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:59:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.13.230.178] (helo=yxa.extundo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1ABng3-0004ps-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:59:23 -0400 Original-Received: from latte (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9L3xF1e004395; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:59:16 +0200 Original-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031021:stephen@xemacs.org:6316c4277c7f60f3 X-Hashcash: 0:031021:stephen@xemacs.org:6316c4277c7f60f3 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031021:eliz@elta.co.il:476262f8817e2530 X-Hashcash: 0:031021:eliz@elta.co.il:476262f8817e2530 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031021:emacs-devel@gnu.org:d247a84d7391c135 X-Hashcash: 0:031021:emacs-devel@gnu.org:d247a84d7391c135 In-Reply-To: <87ismj70d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:09:29 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17281 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17281 "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Fri, 17 > >> Oct 2003 20:54:34 +0900 > > >> What do you think tm and SEMI are? > > Eli> I don't know. They aren't part of Emacs, so I couldn't > Eli> possibly mean them. > > I know. The question is why aren't they? Wasn't tm abandoned 1998 or so? I hope that some parts of SEMI that we managed to get copyright papers for, will be moving into Emacs as part of Gnus. For example PGG (part of Gnus 5.10) and SASL (hopefully will be part of the next development cycle of Gnus). The main problem with SEMI code is that it is assumes APEL. Generally, I'm not sure there is much in tm/SEMI that is not already supported by Emacs, via Gnus or some other package. Do you have example of some practical benefit (i.e., feature-wise, visible to users) adding SEMI to Emacs actually would have?