From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 23:32:29 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20020627190100.35DA.LEKTU@terra.es> <200206290841.g5T8fl206185@santafe.santafe.edu> <20020702170220.5C0A.LEKTU@terra.es> <200207032057.g63KvPu04703@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025731965 27444 127.0.0.1 (3 Jul 2002 21:32:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lektu@terra.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Prjw-00078X-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 23:32:44 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Prpd-0004UM-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 23:38:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PrkL-0000bf-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Prjg-0000Xz-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from latte (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g63LWQwF018922; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:32:27 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 020703:rms@gnu.org:20644281eff33e92 X-Hashcash: 020703:lektu@terra.es:c3c675c20aba9baa X-Hashcash: 020703:emacs-devel@gnu.org:8b098d130fcfd25c In-Reply-To: <200207032057.g63KvPu04703@aztec.santafe.edu> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:57:25 -0600 (MDT)") Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Honest Recruiter, i386-debian-linux) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5420 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5420 Richard Stallman writes: > In terms of benefit for *all* users, this is at least a thousand times > as important as any work on ehelp. Maybe a hundred thousand times as > important. Improvingd on ehelp can only be only useful for writing > other fairly obscure packages for advanced users. Internationalizing > the messages Emacs outputs would be useful to every potential Emacs > who does not speak English. Has anyone started working on this? I'm having some troubles groking how it really would work, gettext() is for C but many messages in Emacs come from elisp code. gettext.el? I notice that people have thought about this problem for Guile (e.g., http://www.glug.org/patches/2001-07-29.gettext-support/). Guile support would be nice..