From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: unwind-protect within while-no-input
Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 09:07:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ierseyrp20x.fsf@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86edab8rml.fsf@gnu.org
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
>> Date: Wed, 08 May 2024 15:28:38 -0400
>>
>> >> How does my-function run the unwind-forms when it is interrupted by
>> >> while-no-input?
>> >
>> > How can a function cause its caller to do anything at all? It can't.
>> > If the caller wants to make sure some unwind-forms will always run
>> > after my-function either returns locally or exits non-locally, the
>> > caller needs to arrange for that.
>>
>> I don't want to run the unwind forms "after" my-function returns or
>> exits. I want them to run wherever they are inside my-function, just
>> like a normal unwind-protect.
>>
>> Let me try to explain again what I want: I want a completely normal
>> unwind-protect, exactly how unwind-protect works normally:
>>
>> (unwind-protect BODYFORM UNWINDFORMS...)
>>
>> Do BODYFORM, protecting with UNWINDFORMS.
>> If BODYFORM completes normally, its value is returned
>> after executing the UNWINDFORMS.
>> If BODYFORM exits nonlocally, the UNWINDFORMS are executed anyway.
>>
>> Except that I want the UNWINDFORMS to not be interrupted by a
>> *surrounding* while-no-input or quit or any other kind of nonlocal exit.
>>
>> Is there any way to do that? ("Move the while-no-input inside the
>> unwind-protect" is not an answer, because then it's not a *surrounding*
>> while-no-input anymore)
>
> IMO, you are trying to solve a problem that is impossible to solve in
> general: a function cannot be responsible for the environment in which
> it is called. You keep talking about while-no-input, but that's just
> an example; there's a virtually infinite number of ways the caller of
> your function can call it in a way that thwarts any attempt of yours
> to prevent non-local exits. Given enough motivation and effort (and
> reliance on the internal implementation details), you could perhaps
> fix that single case of calling the function inside while-no-input,
> but that will not solve all the rest.
>
> The correct solution to these problems is to document the requirements
> of your function from the callers, and let the callers deal with that
> according to their needs. (I suspect that in the case that bothers
> you, you yourself are that caller, which makes it easier to implement
> such protocols.)
>
> Btw, you never explained why you are bothered specifically by
> while-no-input. Nor did you describe the problem.
I'm writing a completion-at-point-function and completion table. This
table internally uses asynchronous subprocesses to get completions.
This completion-at-point-function and table may be called by the popular
completion frontend corfu-mode. corfu-mode uses while-no-input around
calls to completion tables.
I want to ensure that my asynchronous subprocesses are deleted even if
my code is interrupted by corfu's while-no-input.
I can't change the protocol of completion tables or
completion-at-point-functions (that's defined by Emacs), and I'm not the
one calling while-no-input (that's corfu-mode).
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-03 12:45 unwind-protect within while-no-input Spencer Baugh
2024-05-07 18:05 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-07 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 19:43 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 3:59 ` Po Lu
2024-05-08 11:42 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 11:47 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 13:44 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 16:13 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 17:18 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 20:43 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-09 12:57 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09 14:13 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 12:36 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 13:57 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 14:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 14:38 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 15:14 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 19:28 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09 5:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-09 13:07 ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2024-05-09 17:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-11 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-11 10:37 ` Eshel Yaron
2024-05-11 10:42 ` Zhengyi Fu
2024-05-11 21:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-11 22:08 ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-12 1:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-12 8:50 ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-12 11:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-14 21:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-26 2:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26 15:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-26 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-26 22:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-29 0:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29 1:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-08 20:34 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 16:17 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26 2:47 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26 4:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-26 4:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-26 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
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