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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: unwind-protect within while-no-input
Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 09:07:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ierseyrp20x.fsf@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86edab8rml.fsf@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
>> Date: Wed, 08 May 2024 15:28:38 -0400
>> 
>> >> How does my-function run the unwind-forms when it is interrupted by
>> >> while-no-input?
>> >
>> > How can a function cause its caller to do anything at all?  It can't.
>> > If the caller wants to make sure some unwind-forms will always run
>> > after my-function either returns locally or exits non-locally, the
>> > caller needs to arrange for that.
>> 
>> I don't want to run the unwind forms "after" my-function returns or
>> exits.  I want them to run wherever they are inside my-function, just
>> like a normal unwind-protect.
>> 
>> Let me try to explain again what I want: I want a completely normal
>> unwind-protect, exactly how unwind-protect works normally:
>> 
>>   (unwind-protect BODYFORM UNWINDFORMS...)
>>   
>>   Do BODYFORM, protecting with UNWINDFORMS.
>>   If BODYFORM completes normally, its value is returned
>>   after executing the UNWINDFORMS.
>>   If BODYFORM exits nonlocally, the UNWINDFORMS are executed anyway.
>> 
>> Except that I want the UNWINDFORMS to not be interrupted by a
>> *surrounding* while-no-input or quit or any other kind of nonlocal exit.
>> 
>> Is there any way to do that?  ("Move the while-no-input inside the
>> unwind-protect" is not an answer, because then it's not a *surrounding*
>> while-no-input anymore)
>
> IMO, you are trying to solve a problem that is impossible to solve in
> general: a function cannot be responsible for the environment in which
> it is called.  You keep talking about while-no-input, but that's just
> an example; there's a virtually infinite number of ways the caller of
> your function can call it in a way that thwarts any attempt of yours
> to prevent non-local exits.  Given enough motivation and effort (and
> reliance on the internal implementation details), you could perhaps
> fix that single case of calling the function inside while-no-input,
> but that will not solve all the rest.
>
> The correct solution to these problems is to document the requirements
> of your function from the callers, and let the callers deal with that
> according to their needs.  (I suspect that in the case that bothers
> you, you yourself are that caller, which makes it easier to implement
> such protocols.)
>
> Btw, you never explained why you are bothered specifically by
> while-no-input.  Nor did you describe the problem.

I'm writing a completion-at-point-function and completion table.  This
table internally uses asynchronous subprocesses to get completions.

This completion-at-point-function and table may be called by the popular
completion frontend corfu-mode.  corfu-mode uses while-no-input around
calls to completion tables.

I want to ensure that my asynchronous subprocesses are deleted even if
my code is interrupted by corfu's while-no-input.

I can't change the protocol of completion tables or
completion-at-point-functions (that's defined by Emacs), and I'm not the
one calling while-no-input (that's corfu-mode).




  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-09 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 12:45 unwind-protect within while-no-input Spencer Baugh
2024-05-07 18:05 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-07 18:49   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 19:43     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08  3:59       ` Po Lu
2024-05-08 11:42         ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 11:47           ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 13:44             ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 16:13               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 17:18                 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 20:43                   ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-09 12:57                     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09 14:13                       ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 12:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 12:36             ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 11:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 13:57         ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 14:18           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 14:38             ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 15:14                 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 18:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 19:28                     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09  5:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-09 13:07                         ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2024-05-09 17:41                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-11  9:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-11 10:37                             ` Eshel Yaron
2024-05-11 10:42                           ` Zhengyi Fu
2024-05-11 21:45                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-11 22:08                               ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-12  1:59                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-12  8:50                                   ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-12 11:49                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-14 21:30                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-26  2:49                             ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26 15:36                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-26 18:00                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-26 22:56                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-29  0:39                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29  1:17                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-08 20:34                     ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 16:17               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26  2:47   ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26  4:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-26  4:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-26 18:12       ` Stefan Monnier

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