From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Debbugs testbed Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:43:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20080220021827.GR1092@rzlab.ucr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203486257 16755 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 05:44:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:44:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 06:44:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRhkv-0001vK-B8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:44:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRhkQ-0005eZ-6v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRhjy-0005RG-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRhjw-0005Qb-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:43:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRhjw-0005QW-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRhjv-0004iA-Rj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JRhjr-0006Nj-Ll for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:43:27 +0000 Original-Received: from 30.red-83-52-53.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.53.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:43:27 +0000 Original-Received: from ofv by 30.red-83-52-53.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:43:27 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 30.red-83-52-53.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1N3d8qJsrBu7SYbApB5rfc5bMA8= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89655 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Óscar Fuentes writes: >> First: it has no web interface for filling bugs: an easy and intuitive >> interface for users is paramount. > > I expect an _Emacs_ interface for filing bugs is far, far, more > important in this case.... An Emacs interface would be great, but you still need a fall-back interface for when the bug or the environment blocks the operation of the Emacs interface. > [An interface being "web" or not has absolutely nothing to do with it's > being "easy" -- look at the original bugzilla, which was as web-centric > as they come, and yet had one of the most horrid and newbie-hostile > bug-filing (and searching) interfaces ever...] There are plenty of bad examples for everything, even for Emacs interfaces :-) Emacs-based of web-based, such an interface can do smart things that brings a friendlier experience than a plain-text e-mail system does. (Of course an Emacs-based interface is much better because it can automatically provide lots of information by introspection.) -- Oscar