From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Darren Hoo <darren.hoo@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: About the :distant-foreground face attribute
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:25:42 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff1514f9-eecb-4fa7-8ca3-55f5ec44389f@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2d2k0j2i6.fsf@gmail.com>
> > From my experience, editors usually simply drop font-lock when you
> > mark text (at least Eclipse does that, and in gvim it seems to be
> > configurable), and I think that is a good default. When you mark a
> > region, you want to apply some kind of operation on it, after
> > which the region will be gone and font lock is restored.
>
> That's quite contrary to my experience. Even for old emacs like
> emacs22 font-lock is kept on marked text with transient-mark-mode
> enabled. As to other tools like Eclipse, Netbeans,Xcode selected
> text does not lose syntax highlight either.
Yes and no. You might think that, just because (a) by default, face
`region' does not specify a foreground color and (b) most font locking
(maybe all default font-locking) does not affect the background.
> Especially for Eclipse I remembered that when I used it about a
> decade ago copying selected code from Eclipse to other WYSIWYG
> applications like MS PowerPoint the syntax highlight is also copied
> ie, rich formatted.
But this is the point: does the selection highlighting take precedence
over the underlying text highlighting (syntax highlighting or other)?
My guess is that in *all* of the cases you cite the answer is yes.
Selection highlighting _should_ take precedence, so you can tell
clearly which text has been selected. When you are selecting text,
that is generally more important than other highlighting considerations.
> I must say here that my experience with color theme is way much
> better and much less flaws than before it's integerated thanks to
> the work of all the developers especially cyd.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Color theme was not integrated
into Emacs. It is still a separate library (and it still works
with Emacs 24.4). What CYD did was to enhance Emacs custom themes
to do some of what color themes do (in a different way), and to do
some things that color themes do not do. `color-theme.el' is here:
http://www.nongnu.org/color-theme . See also
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ColorTheme.
> I do. I find myself get an uneasy feeling when font-lock is lost on
> marked text.
It was lost in the context you describe (IIUC), because the platform
provided a bad default color for the `region' background. This was
not the right "fix" for that problem, IMO (IIUC).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-09 22:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-07 12:55 About the :distant-foreground face attribute Chong Yidong
2014-01-07 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-07 17:28 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-07 18:09 ` Joel Mccracken
[not found] ` <<8361pvsmbk.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-07 18:44 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83zjn7r4z3.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-07 19:06 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-07 21:57 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-08 3:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-08 5:24 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-08 9:35 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-08 9:52 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-08 10:10 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-08 14:49 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-08 16:37 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-08 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-08 16:57 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-08 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-09 16:15 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-09 17:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09 17:07 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-09 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-09 18:21 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-09 22:25 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-09 22:48 ` David Engster
2014-01-12 11:14 ` David Engster
2014-01-12 11:40 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-12 12:21 ` David Engster
2014-01-12 12:56 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-12 13:07 ` David Engster
2014-01-12 13:17 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-12 20:14 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-12 21:20 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-12 22:07 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-13 0:57 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-12 22:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13 4:14 ` chad
2014-01-09 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-09 17:22 ` David Engster
2014-01-09 17:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-09 17:50 ` Jan D.
2014-01-09 20:58 ` Darren Hoo
2014-01-09 21:17 ` David Engster
2014-01-09 22:29 ` Darren Hoo
2014-01-09 22:25 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-01-09 22:24 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-09 17:39 ` Josh
2014-01-09 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-09 17:49 ` Jan D.
2014-01-13 13:13 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Colascione
2014-01-13 16:27 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-13 16:33 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-13 18:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-13 21:29 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-13 21:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-13 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-13 23:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 1:32 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-14 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 19:32 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-14 2:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 19:32 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-14 22:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 0:31 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-15 0:54 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 3:07 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-15 3:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 4:59 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-15 5:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 5:39 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-15 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-15 4:50 ` Yuri Khan
2014-01-15 7:50 ` Jan D.
2014-01-15 7:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 8:17 ` Jan D.
2014-01-15 17:23 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-13 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 0:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 2:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 8:47 ` Chong Yidong
2014-01-14 9:42 ` Jan D.
2014-01-14 19:32 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-14 7:47 ` Jan D.
2014-01-14 8:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 9:34 ` Jan D.
2014-01-14 10:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 11:44 ` Jan D.
2014-01-14 17:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 18:06 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-14 18:31 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 18:51 ` John Yates
2014-01-14 22:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 18:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 20:01 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-14 20:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 22:05 ` [PATCH] " Jan Djärv
2014-01-14 22:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 6:33 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-15 8:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 9:25 ` Jan D.
2014-01-15 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 20:39 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Colascione
2014-01-14 21:58 ` [PATCH] " Jan Djärv
2014-01-14 22:06 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-15 3:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 4:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-15 4:25 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 6:39 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-15 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 14:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-15 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 16:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-15 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-15 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 18:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-15 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 20:05 ` Josh
2014-01-15 20:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 21:03 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 21:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-15 21:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-15 21:31 ` John Yates
2014-01-15 22:11 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-15 23:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 22:50 ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-08 3:13 ` Darren Hoo
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2014-01-09 22:27 ` Drew Adams
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