From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help' Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 17:50:45 +0300 Message-ID: References: <838s7hxqkr.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtua9isw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40233"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 08 16:51:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUW0g-000ALM-SN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 16:51:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46648 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUW0f-0008Er-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUVzi-0007bY-70 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::329]:53136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUVzg-0007Dc-27; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:50:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id d191so1351613wmd.2; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 07:50:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WGI3RWkYohDBfXM3vlbNCXhxXb75egphI2PsKfZZMb4=; b=D1kt3Vdc28rO7mVMjsdcH8uNsxuTjBtkfoxpa4q8t0tWc586aB1XDfIMw/DVAKDv0L 2aHesTBN+tRHSbhGH5CyZ4XfN5GRgjXeOpidxZ0ldmqNauKdsWflGmBNxS3N1QbQTCL3 kLMQXe23BD7UQ0gQNpLHHwTfUcCf2nkPFKKEjN2jpVFLe6Ac+Bw3OYbHFPmvBHjduIp1 UzpUIYxfMRr9ICRJBHEy094t5vjEP1X8GKCdFKRFICU9EqF7SWWPXagXhlYMBNMg05Bz CvwG2rKIFZs4OWiqbSmVdftOBNfrUS3x6QnWYWmnN7IcmoT9w6H3tldohezKsVrotOrw 943w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WGI3RWkYohDBfXM3vlbNCXhxXb75egphI2PsKfZZMb4=; b=pudB3eRtmegOr1GMDcM8gt+jDoaTUMjtqXMTBesaLlxQdXwjdPD44lfk9PgTNFEy1P S5/JNrsUiy4gxt7Inu851NDNd1HIsy2wRHIvGewXPHMylmFZXh/TPf+TJ4bG6Z/5JlNb c26HDTG+oTiWJzhoEgrrJH6QH3K8uoSkoGfFLCFGSuDm0zZ0w2bvKrXnb931EU8UZpz3 nKqR8r8yBno6x/tM91i+LgGnwy1fx4JQoDH3SdJunKq9BzYXC+nwzVrd3X8xocFK/7F4 BB0RV0svmW8sJkz4fIWN1nR2tII/SmmHmINca8F5It/aPHhLcwfMNOGq76yWRKcq/lxK jWHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ocqXEUB9evkxv1Ktld8awFhdz71QsuqviktX6m/XLwS280uhi nSUsQtE/YOBlu8bWd+BOwOAq2StnjUY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxuzeaZ0svF8dWeOFM80Q/TqcgPtP5Tf4h8lc3BDpdjHjPIOer+di/RV+SZIL8dGiZAl/hYgQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:e38b:: with SMTP id a133mr8785903wmh.71.1617893448219; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m128sm9597946wmm.14.2021.04.08.07.50.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Apr 2021 07:50:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::329; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x329.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267617 Archived-At: On 08.04.2021 17:08, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > It feels like > "international" is being used as a euphemism for "foreign". If we > really mean "foreign" that is what we should write. "foreign" implies a specific point of reference. What's foreign to you may not be foreign to me, or some other user.