From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: An anonymous IRC user's opinion
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 12:37:38 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <feb88732-776f-4ac7-a33e-2b55324f83ee@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86cyk4vcld.fsf@gnu.org>
On 13/10/2024 07:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> The proposal I'm quoting is straightforward: if Emacs is compiled with
>> tree-sitter support, enable the modes and warn when the grammars are not
>> available. If Emacs is not compiled with tree-sitter, do neither.
>>
>> That kind of rule has predictability: for example if the grammar was not
>> installed originally but the user did that while Emacs was running, the
>> corresponding major mode will start working the next time the user tries
>> to enable it. That wouldn't be the case if we conditionally alter
>> auto-mode-alist based on grammar availability.
>>
>> The above approach should be quite easy to implement, if there's
>> agreement to it. Otherwise, the issue is about choosing the details of
>> the UI first.
>
> It is not clear which modes you suggest that should behave like that.
> Surely, not all of them, i.e. including those for which non-TS modes
> are part of Emacs?
I don't have a strong opinion on which set should be enabled - maybe
just all TS modes which we don't have built-in counterparts. Maybe not
even toml-ts-mode, since there is conf-toml-mode.
Maybe make some exceptions for TS modes that provide significantly
better functionality than the classic ones. Not sure which ones.
What I think is important, though, is avoiding major mode functions
modiying auto-mode-alist at runtime.
> And yes, I would like to hear from more people what they think about
> the possible behaviors in these cases, including how to handle missing
> grammar libraries.
Everybody's welcome to chime in.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-13 9:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-06 7:32 An anonymous IRC user's opinion Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-10-06 8:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 8:44 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-06 9:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 9:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 9:32 ` Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-10-06 11:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-06 13:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 12:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-09 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-09 20:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-10 8:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-09 6:48 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 20:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-09 11:09 ` Johan Myréen
2024-10-09 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-09 13:38 ` tomas
2024-10-09 16:02 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-09 21:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-10 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-10 9:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-10 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-10 6:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-09 16:06 ` Johan Myréen
2024-10-09 16:12 ` Ship Mints
2024-10-09 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-09 21:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-10 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-10 5:14 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-10-10 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-10 6:59 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-10-11 20:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-12 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-12 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-12 21:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-13 4:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 6:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-13 4:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 9:37 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2024-10-13 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 15:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-13 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-14 9:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-14 11:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-15 1:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-14 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-15 1:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-15 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-03 3:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-03 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-03 19:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-04 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 17:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-04 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 20:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 17:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 19:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 20:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-06 12:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-06 12:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-06 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-06 16:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-06 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-19 2:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 13:21 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-05 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 16:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-05 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 17:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-05 19:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-06 0:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-06 9:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-06 9:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-07 14:16 ` Automatic Suggestion of Packages Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-07 16:07 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-07 21:50 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-08 4:15 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-08 4:29 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-08 14:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-08 15:44 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-08 16:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-11 20:07 ` Mekeor Melire
2024-11-12 3:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-10-13 10:52 ` An anonymous IRC user's opinion Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-10 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-10 14:45 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-12 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-10-06 5:31 Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-10-06 6:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 9:06 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-06 9:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 10:31 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-10-07 21:17 ` John ff
2024-10-13 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-01 20:09 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2024-10-04 16:25 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-10-04 18:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-04 18:30 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-10-04 19:24 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-04 20:37 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-10-05 8:41 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-05 12:57 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-10-05 13:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-05 15:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-09 7:04 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-10-07 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-07 4:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-07 14:27 ` Ship Mints
2024-10-07 14:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-07 10:31 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-10 0:22 ` chad
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