From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA policy Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 18:06:05 +0300 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <83zhaij4qn.fsf@gnu.org> <835zd6ihns.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wphblf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="126734"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 17:06:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXR3t-000WsQ-W0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 17:06:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42104 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXR3s-0000fg-Hb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 11:06:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXR3L-0008TM-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 11:06:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]:37731) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXR3K-0004IH-J7; Sat, 09 May 2020 11:06:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id k1so5371613wrx.4; Sat, 09 May 2020 08:06:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OzbO0k189uwsGhYyTwbCmOtOCakCWMAKkSjtwYOSpdQ=; b=tB/0NIk0QCRooqNGVAn4XhEWBo9AuSsYCAElNnehAPkybJISnuQh0p3lV9mwxslfZU 0o41eDTtv6DsSsCG+eNjbGxow5hVc44wNEw4wTA/UPTTuUPEetdba145o5BuQj4OFnx9 da46Edt5eyA7TUJ5dEdZq5KRH95jVOAJxwebGMkQVgCYA/tLUpfhggVPSaUv89i5vfCu dv9MYHJntG4gvHaiduccxWg3VtlvKfaxrrD+a1ppHUiX/K8lKtFJ9X+sfjPDX6ysJ0pW g+9hfTzDrIgMEWeK9tWVfRj1b3Ch/KOIbnKv+gt5ASG+qBCOGlbexeJ33DGHtQmARZj5 Hk3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OzbO0k189uwsGhYyTwbCmOtOCakCWMAKkSjtwYOSpdQ=; b=QVDnF7EFdq9IGWUjzISQfAY86CuN2bQF4t2W+I+rxYDd82YR/6TrcChmqcxeL1GxzZ kSsLd6zqMeKMi0QHgy9j39y2+wcGly9qwLE6NaUaszu2SQUqpPAgJcP2b8xm0PkU5DH6 b0dAb/IjLZqIXZOmCfFRQiWBaqdge3dXBtmSR9WrMstQqN9YfMb8FN3evljWv7R9OG6o zchL4exHmgm3Lzz9ng8AV8lNMOz8GGd2mMBoZKsWVCRkmKDbr5sT7wNlhYs3FUj+Rv3G AjUpcIUg5OMcs6s8bl8AaIGfthIgVB19Q/pWBmFvXSXuIz/o+N2HB6PB/rm3AIjnOP+R gufg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua78CU+XZ8V2yRAIlHGYhb6qxw8gB1vlRu3zxEfWhxrezTJTY62 7stuMpauFjFpMFeIXmLSzgizN81q X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJIHT8txtGiWpXVvarGcFzzgYC41MbH8hlzqkntU2QzQiUVG2xZkrY0Uy5v3ICvdAF/HJt+DQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:114b:: with SMTP id d11mr4105350wrx.407.1589036768109; Sat, 09 May 2020 08:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i1sm8313388wrx.22.2020.05.09.08.06.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 May 2020 08:06:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83h7wphblf.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42b; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249455 Archived-At: On 09.05.2020 09:22, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > And why do I have to submit bug reports against an ELPA package for > violation of our coding conventions? Because it's the only way how things can work well. Once we have a bug tracker that most maintainers like to use, that could change. > I'd expect the maintainer of the > package to be asked to fix those as a precondition for accepting the > package in GNU ELPA, or at least as a long-term plan to which the > maintainer agreed in advance (in which case no bug report would have > been necessary). > > What am I missing here? You're missing that the maintainers don't have any contractual obligations. The more conditions we add, and the less effort we want to expend ourselves [forwarding bug reports], the higher the odds are that we end up with fewer contributions/stale code/untended bug reports.