From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Miles Bader" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: unicode font-backend + tiling Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:07:22 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87ejrffa4k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1165288078 7568 80.91.229.10 (5 Dec 2006 03:07:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 03:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 05 04:07:56 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GrQes-00070p-6l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:07:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrQer-0003dH-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:07:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GrQeW-0003VL-0D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:07:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GrQeS-0003UK-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:07:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrQeR-0003UF-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.249.92.171] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrQeR-0002Y5-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:07:23 -0500 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j3so3492744ugf for ; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:07:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=udpLIXbClhU7RZXsvWXSGrkKsSBP+fVjGm7oTJ8bex6Fofa8yfCl3URpPphHXlgn7AMVu9bIqCMxsyc9mVk8UJF3ePsibHqHM2/cSpmQq7oua1wl4hLV2w+XpSCbcoztO/RsM2mpGMj+8Ee649oRHAh2VLWzWUk4EWEOMyyJA+s= Original-Received: by 10.78.157.8 with SMTP id f8mr8469021hue.1165288042311; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:07:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.78.156.6 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:07:22 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Leo In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e3bfdf402d27722 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:63287 Archived-At: On 12/5/06, Leo wrote: > I love aa too. However Chinese characters look hazy when aa is enabled. > > I check Chinese characters in gedit (gnome editor); it seems it > disable aa for Chinese characters. I wonder how can emacs do the same. By default, Emacs 23 doesn't use AA for non-ascii character sets yet (so it just uses the old bitmap mechanism). If I enable AA for CJK characters in Emacs, they do actually look fuzzy[*] -- this is slightly surprising to me, since I think the default configuration for freetype disables AA for CJK characters. So maybe Emacs is overriding the defaults (I don't really know how that stuff works)? If so, I assume it can be tweaked to not do that... [*] BTW, don't think AA actually _always_ looks bad for CJK -- I've seen some really, really nicely done examples, I think it was some type1 cjk fonts where freetype was using the normally disabled autohinter (disabled for some stupid patent reason). -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.