From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Miles Bader" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using proportional fonts in Gnus Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:03:42 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87wtdpmbbn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145257447 12369 80.91.229.2 (17 Apr 2006 07:04:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 17 09:04:05 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVNmG-0006YJ-De for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:04:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVNmF-0002a3-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FVNlx-0002YB-Vx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FVNlv-0002Xb-NF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVNlv-0002XY-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.162.195] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVNmW-0002VZ-8q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:04:20 -0400 Original-Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id j2so430382nzf for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:03:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Tl2tbNOOXv7UXqkGzwexPlltdwgLSUEcR3egq00dRGEVm67+r0clluSrmiGT9CzPIpK3WcV6gMrTQ95KuqjnZNkaDpaTE0Hvtyrqd1sKW9d1imLghyH7I4+etGVDsRfAUSQsoEckHZ8Z4iMv7iT+ttzT+cKcBf1vdhgmH4gHGYQ= Original-Received: by 10.36.153.18 with SMTP id a18mr628199nze; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.36.220.10 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: "Eli Zaretskii" In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:52945 Archived-At: On 4/17/06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > For instance a "super tab" text property saying "align to colum N (or > > leave M units of whitespace if already there)"; maybe some degree of > > indirection would be useful so one need not rewrite the buffer text to > > change N dynamically. > > I don't see the original message anywhere in this list, so perhaps I > misunderstand the issue. But if I do understand it, then there're no > columns when proportional fonts are used. Well, the actual units to use is of course one detail to figure out. However I do think there are "columns" in the sense that for instance if you specify a proportional default font, emacs will figure out window size which is 80 "columns", and will choose some size to use for tabs (which are defined in terms of columns). It's not an absurd concept: you just pick some character to use in definining what a column is, for instance SPC. -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.