From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:19:45 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87u0ebg4cb.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132226241 10276 80.91.229.2 (17 Nov 2005 11:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sascha Wilde , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 17 12:17:17 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Echjp-0005oQ-IE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:15:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Echjn-0007li-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:15:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EcfzC-0007Jg-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EcfxW-00077U-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:21:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ecfvn-0006xy-EA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:19:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.196] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ecfvm-0003Vb-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so239102wri for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:19:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fJiOUsgbO+i1k87nR03maLzAP8xJ857QLCMibGN8so0PNg8us8/Jho3zzv06RjoHjTwjWIXbYj0BrgeBcEt1rY02v4ztINL2938XlNVKvrcjX10QKFidUL9WWXrSCPWi1/b2NL+LfpyTatiq/1/qv7ao23DHlf2YTXuLaGzfliQ= Original-Received: by 10.54.124.6 with SMTP id w6mr419058wrc; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:19:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.54.158.8 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:19:45 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87u0ebg4cb.fsf@jurta.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46151 Archived-At: 2005/11/17, Juri Linkov : > I doubt that `M-#' in gnus is used too much, because it has one > inconvenience which is not fixed for a long time. Unlike `#' which > advances to the next article, `M-#' stays on the same article. Unmarking commands in Gnus follow a fairly regular pattern -- if key "foo" marks, then "M-foo" unmarks. This correspondence is _extremely_ useful, because one uses unmarking commands more rarely than the corresponding marking command, so a regular naming convention makes it easy to remember what they're bound to. However, despite the fact that they are used more rarely, they certainly are used. Note that unmarking commands are typically used to correct mistakes, not for large-scale changes, so for "#", being repeatable is quite important to normal usage; for "M-#", it's not. > There is another key binding in gnus that conflicts with the global > key binding. It is `M-g'. Yeah, so what? Another notable non-tragedy. -miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.