From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-break-space in tutorial Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:17:10 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87y8a1o9u0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87acmgubin.fsf@jurta.org> <87ll5yqbya.fsf@jurta.org> <87mzq3r70q.fsf@jurta.org> <873bruw4nw.fsf@jurta.org> <87wtp5raj4.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118189910 23701 80.91.229.2 (8 Jun 2005 00:18:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 08 02:18:24 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfoFw-0005M9-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:17:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfoMY-0000Cw-8P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DfoLw-0008Or-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:23:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DfoLt-0008Na-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfoLt-0008Mc-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.195] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DfoJJ-0000z0-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:20:45 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so12631wri for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Gabo9Oy5YUZFtJkTuyGQO+Dv2mPG7N+PGwHTnnj9b0stUgmSN2X9Y0YJNBU2cpEIhsNdpAT2+K0L63yKtYQiIz2wpT1JPJw6PrXBKWNa1XRwrt6jHWwE1JATBrvXuNbdLZ7tdfH4sZ1DFRy61gvwQwzP7xYBkNMpjFgdJxv1dUs= Original-Received: by 10.54.55.70 with SMTP id d70mr29415wra; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.31 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87wtp5raj4.fsf@jurta.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38293 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38293 On 6/8/05, Juri Linkov wrote: > Perhaps, you missed something. It was your opinion about > unsuitability of a modified background that I've taken into account > before I started to think about a different solution. I fully > agree with you that a modified background is a bad solution. > That's why I installed for people to try a completely different > patch which I think is much better than anything proposed so far. > A new solution puts the underline attribute on non-breaking spaces. > This appropriately reflects the purpose of non-breaking spaces > ("gluing" words together) and is not as annoying as anything else. Then you mis-interpreted the objections to your original proposal.=20 The strength of the old display method is that it uses a familiar notation (backslash escape and common escape highlighting) to show that NBSP/soft-hyphen are "funny" characters, rather than adding yet another ad-hoc notation. Now, you may dislike this representation, but the fact that you think your preferred solution "is better than anything proposed so far" doesn't make that some kind of undisputed fact. [Clearly, because I'm here disputing it.] -Miles --=20 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.