From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-break-space in tutorial Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:31:20 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87y8a1o9u0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87acmgubin.fsf@jurta.org> <87ll5yqbya.fsf@jurta.org> <87mzq3r70q.fsf@jurta.org> <873bruw4nw.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118184349 4603 80.91.229.2 (7 Jun 2005 22:45:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 08 00:45:40 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dfmnn-0008G9-0C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 00:44:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfmuM-0003wv-JF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:50:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DfmsL-0003FG-26 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DfmsG-0003Cq-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:48:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfmsD-00033a-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.200] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dfmes-00030P-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so8282wri for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PAzz091uzsXC6BtLNTkSEqJHc8jTKdidDEtnIpUmplpx5XN+H1jQM0btFRMrOWTYvz7qmG3HohB0XAEjLzUBeJOOf3zc21defX73o09MhuKtRzxfhKwnkxKgIx41RSQ9wPIgYzp/jwrq1T/PZ7ErBa56F6QWpf+iiNuYehcPgYU= Original-Received: by 10.54.1.39 with SMTP id 39mr27843wra; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.31 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <873bruw4nw.fsf@jurta.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38284 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38284 On 6/8/05, Juri Linkov wrote: > > 2) The original treatment of NBSP -- displaying it like a normal > > escape character, with backslash prefix and in the normal escape > > character face -- is IMO better than your method, so _at the least_ it > > should be user selectable, but it seems that your patch makes this > > impossible. [And I personally think it should be the default.] >=20 > I've seen various texts with a lot of non-breaking spaces. > Additional backslashes render such texts almost unreadable. This is your _opinion_, which I disagree with. I think dIsplaying them with a modified background, if anything, looks worse, and is more confusing to users than making them look like an "escape character", which is already a familiar concept. In your post, you said you had "taken everybody's opinion into account", which is clearly not true. Despite the initial objections to your proposed changes, you simply went ahead and made them anyway. -Miles --=20 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.