From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-break-space in tutorial Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:17:19 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87y8a1o9u0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87acmgubin.fsf@jurta.org> <87ll5yqbya.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117516557 18286 80.91.229.2 (31 May 2005 05:15:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 05:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 31 07:15:56 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dcz5v-0005cK-GY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:15:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DczAw-0006Fw-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:20:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DczAi-0006Dw-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DczAf-0006CD-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:20:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DczAe-0006Bs-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.205] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dcz9c-000827-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so497146wri for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:17:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y7mbNO5I7jXO2cBpzYQJNa5VWGlD0xwraTssi5H//dj0tASFCwRpR20L1Yi2dA22OtFo1vNV6RKJqH7Y75yKz7TWHtT9s0EOC/NEklJxdv4/3E4n4u0kjhhBKAm1aPNqoIZi1O86cAdWM7QWaUx/Za+VhHIP4lRH03ax7M4YY0k= Original-Received: by 10.54.59.8 with SMTP id h8mr99628wra; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.31 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37924 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37924 On 5/31/05, Richard Stallman wrote: > I tried the patch you wrote, and I think that using a background to > highlight NBSP looks somewhat loud. The foreground color on backslash > is much less loud. >=20 > However, if users prefer this way, I won't object. I suppose it's a matter of taste; I rather like the old behavior, and think Juri's solution is much worse (I tried his patch). Having spaces with only a background color different looks more like a display glitch than anything else, and I think escaped spaces are a much more intuitive representation for a typical Emacs user. Regardless, the `escape-glyph' face should not be changed to accomodate this special case, as the new colors are awful for the majority of escape sequences which don't need a background color change. _If_ it's decided to treat NBSP specially in this manner, then it should have its own new face, and `escape-glyph' should be left alone. -Miles --=20 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.