From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arch-tag lines in tutorials. Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:03:46 +0900 Message-ID: References: <878y3pldzl.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87br8hnlma.fsf@kali.intranet> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113522266 10910 80.91.229.2 (14 Apr 2005 23:44:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 01:44:24 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DME0P-0008OW-8i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:44:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DME3n-0007z3-CX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DME0O-0003vg-Ro for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DME0M-0003rq-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:44:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DMDwu-0001d3-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.198] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DMDNw-0005us-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so665080wri for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:03:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bQ2wG+8FIj3kaIOYNc3BfQbAP69PgOsaEyrO0AJBh+2NaLkigII91+rW2qt9Mdp14FAQPgqEuO32uHw6zUwyOpWE8ZDZbLpRuVaatgOkllvvECuUJ4ME1sJQ74AWbwwxDYWIMqUfl+ERp+6OIGeG44iXYH4ayaHH5AINfOOUMlY= Original-Received: by 10.54.17.72 with SMTP id 72mr110669wrq; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.32 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Marcelo Toledo In-Reply-To: <87br8hnlma.fsf@kali.intranet> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35999 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35999 On 4/15/05, Marcelo Toledo wrote: > For a newbie user the arch tag and the local variables will be something > that he doesn't know about. I don't think that only this will fix the > problem of having not know things in the buffer. If we're going to think > about it I think we need to think about a convention and a global > solution. Is having things a newbie "doesn't know about" in the file actually harmful (especially considering, it's more or less just a text file, and this funny stuff is at the end)? Maybe it's actually _good_, in that it might might peak their curiousity, and make them aware (if often only peripherally) of a feature they might not have thought about otherwise. -Miles --=20 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.