From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Type Ahead Find Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:04:08 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87k6o4eo2u.fsf@jurta.org> <874qf83a5i.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87psxvq11d.fsf@jurta.org> <87acoy89fa.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111356870 27597 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 22:14:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 23:14:27 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD8fn-00040E-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:13:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD8wl-0000B8-0q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:30:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD8uL-0007cu-FN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:28:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD8uA-0007Y5-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD8uA-0007V3-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.196] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DD8Wm-0001lR-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:04:08 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so261979wri for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:04:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lybvjM79koqhNVkoZ0y5rkn0pU7t5zruRuu2xBrSY2FATt0BEpXfa4AEDGZvYLqIPPP6q0CTa236JMS9MRF6FkupBqwykI9PbQHLX1pL8lYBHG32tyzs2sAqBtcnUON+S3VMsKkCapO+EemfMuI4very6nUM4LE8DCWH6W/gq3k= Original-Received: by 10.54.20.15 with SMTP id 15mr448559wrt; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:04:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.70 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:04:08 -0800 (PST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34855 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34855 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:46:42 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > Your idea of using a prefix > > looks better. We could have the following prefixes: > > Again: I don't like the left-right jump of the minibuffer caused by > that. If there really is a need for that kind of information, can't > we put this in the mode-line lighter of Isearch mode? > > Like Isearch/Wrapped, Isearch/X-Node... It's a trade-off: having it in the I-search prompt make sure that the user sees it; having in the mode-line is much less sure. I think that `incidental information' (like a node name etc) is not important enough to put in the I-search prompt, and that your concern about the jumping around is valid there. However I think that these various states of "wrapping" &c are _very_ important to communicate -- it can be extremely confusing for a user if I-search is finding stuff and he doesn't realize that it's in the other direction than he originally searched, or in another info node. [I say this from personal experience :-] So while your concern is valid, I think these state-indicators should definitely be included in the prompt -- they're far too critical to leave out. -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.