From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: proofreading man/dired.texi Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:51:30 +0900 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108520233 18395 80.91.229.2 (16 Feb 2005 02:17:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Joakim Verona , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 16 03:17:12 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1EkW-0000OY-2j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:17:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1F0L-0003Lb-Es for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:33:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1Erq-0002GF-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:24:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1Erg-0002DN-K2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:24:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1Erf-00025A-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:24:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.205] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D1ELi-0005mQ-PP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:30 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so79259wri for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:51:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Qc1yzYQS2BLkGR4Ala2o9bstWy54XwOymEeSeVCR+RurBaEbY56rca0C8NKVRoY8G/UzOd2QehcOIxYQsNbQuQyAAF+b0quwckprlRhDQJ6kOGT4n3GGyQwiGKrIaQtgdR19xifmXcy9D9OQWBC//Lbca4ArvTfdLLs4c+/KqNE= Original-Received: by 10.54.20.76 with SMTP id 76mr41241wrt; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:51:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.70 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:51:30 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33519 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33519 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:12:45 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Why does wdired allow self-insertion? > > Is there a good reason for it? > > If not, it would seem to be a bug. > > The whole purpose of wdired is to allow you to edit your directory (file > names, permissions, ...) directly with self-insert-command, so it's not at > all a bug. BTW, I noticed that wdired seems to be a bit unintuitive: (1) The function name "wdired-change-to-wdired-mode" is bizarre; why not just `wdired-mode'???? Is there another way one is supposed to enter it? (2) One must hit `C-c C-c' for changes to take effect; this seems a bit heavy-weight -- why not just RET (which seems to be what other systems use)? (3) Similarly, in analogy to other systems, it might be nice if there was some obvious visual indication that wdired was active and filenames "open for editting" -- e.g., if the filenames looked like a customize-style "input field" (one might even use the same abstract face for both, e.g. define an `input-field' face, and have customize inherit from it). Thoughts? -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.