From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:15:59 +0900 Message-ID: References: <014201c512f1$05630180$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108431818 4451 80.91.229.2 (15 Feb 2005 01:43:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 02:43:38 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0rkQ-0002t5-2i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:43:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0s04-0000xq-6q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:59:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ryN-0007wu-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:57:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ryD-0007rJ-Q9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ryC-0007fg-4t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:57:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.193] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0rJn-0005Jr-Vu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:16:00 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so628368wri for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:15:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=b9bnQzoqE0XvYrnh1g3ndug+tUZiWLalvSc8d9AF/ivG6nD8fqj0syCuqytEDSV5eUEE8fDKzVUBp6gbuOWTKYfo3CZZg8Kuri1udKGqzcSkblra88a/4r3oXI1k8zCfLdlljcAWzPWmD7nNmkVZw1BFPHM7idgWTj3Sa+VbRvc= Original-Received: by 10.54.20.49 with SMTP id 49mr17121wrt; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:15:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.70 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:15:59 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <014201c512f1$05630180$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33446 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33446 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:56:12 +0100, Lennart Borgman wrote: > "The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a buffer > is `M-'. However, many window systems and window managers use this > key combination themselves (typically for switching between windows) > and do not pass it to applications. Note that this can also be typed using `ESC TAB', which is pretty convenient (the ESC and TAB keys are almost next to one another). Maybe people with typical modern keyboards with the ESC key off in an obscure location might like some other combination better -- but such keyboards usually _also_ have the control key in some bizarro obscure location too, so I'm not sure that C-RET is much better... [BTW who's fault is that anyway? I seem to recall it was some ISO keyboard standard in the '80s that started all this keyboard-from-hell crap...] -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.