From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: push and pop Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:19:51 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1105132512.26051.75.camel@turtle.as.arizona.edu> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1105150925 9731 80.91.229.6 (8 Jan 2005 02:22:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 02:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 03:21:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cn6Ep-0006Pn-00 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 03:21:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn6QC-0007Cw-87 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:33:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn6Ou-0006ws-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:32:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn6Oi-0006ot-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:32:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cn6Og-0006o0-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:32:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.202] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cn6Cm-0006CL-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:19:52 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 49so857694wri for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:19:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BRCNG6fm/QhG9v0zB1mVCoEhJspQJWcS2eDorSQvR3p65ofz9EVFmWbJRE+szAJGm4jngiwlOjLcKtmqbmzig+zlB7XH5GiknuSRE3EDKFgyIW0wKK/r8zCZnohgyyIJ622SkOFvrf6lX35qEJuSjuiTuEs0pwxQ15eYzlrhS+s= Original-Received: by 10.54.17.29 with SMTP id 29mr206679wrq; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:19:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.32 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:19:51 -0800 (PST) Original-To: JD Smith In-Reply-To: <1105132512.26051.75.camel@turtle.as.arizona.edu> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32026 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32026 > I think the confusion for me and lots of others: many installs (like > Fedora/Red Hat) include site-start stuff that does (or did) a (require > 'cl) somewhere. So it comes as unexpected when that stuff isn't > available. So, in every emacs-20 I'd ever used, you'd get no such > error, since cl had already been loaded by default. I think you should be complaining to Red Hat... -Miles