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From: Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	bob@rattlesnake.com, stephen@xemacs.org, andy@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:32:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc339e4a04121815327ee0ba17@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <014501c4e4eb$3af838d0$0300a8c0@neeeeeee2>

> Otherwise
you give the impression of actively hindering the XEmacs project.

Please, keep the tinfoil hats in the closet.

This state of affairs is no doubt annoying to xemacs, but there'sno
reason to believe that this was intentional.  Richard is pretty
consistent on this -- e.g., Debian, which is as good a friend as the
FSF has, is also annoyed by this issue.

Xemacs is certainly not without options, even if they want to use the
FSF text and Richard doesn't budge; for instance:

  (1) Xemacs could use this opportunity to try to get its records in order
      and try to identify what parts of its manual are problematic etc.

  (2) Richard mentioned that the what he object to is blanket changes.
      Perhaps there could be a mechanism by which xemacs requests license
      flexibility for each bit of the manual text it wants to use; if the FSF
      gave timely responses to such request, it might be only a minor
      inconvenience.  [I have no idea what exactly is acceptable to the FSF
      but ...]

-Miles

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-18 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-09 22:28 Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual Ben Wing
2004-12-10 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-11  0:59   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-11  1:06     ` Miles Bader
2004-12-11 10:27   ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-12-11 18:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 20:43       ` David Kastrup
2004-12-11 19:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-12  0:26       ` Karl Fogel
2004-12-12  8:57         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 16:56           ` Brian Palmer
2004-12-12 13:31       ` Matthew Mundell
2004-12-12 13:40         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12  2:03     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12  4:59       ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]         ` <m1CdWGG-0004R2C@rattlesnake.com>
2004-12-12 17:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 18:39             ` Florian Weimer
2004-12-12 19:24               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 19:49                 ` Florian Weimer
2004-12-12 19:43             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12 19:59               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 20:46                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12 21:00               ` Andy Piper
2004-12-13  1:59                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  2:23                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13 12:34                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-12-13 16:53                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 14:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-15 19:14                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 20:19                           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-15 23:32                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-17  5:36                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-15 23:20                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-16 10:58                           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-16 12:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-16 12:29                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-17  0:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-18 10:20                               ` Ben Wing
2004-12-18 23:32                                 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2004-12-19  6:31                                   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-19  6:32                                   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-19 13:54                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-19 15:40                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-12-19 16:10                                   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-19 21:32                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-12-19 23:48                                       ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-20  8:07                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-20 14:05                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-20  0:19                                       ` Ben Wing
2004-12-20  7:20                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-20 10:58                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-20 10:56                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-20 12:47                                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-17  1:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-12  4:39     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-12  6:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-12 21:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-12 21:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13  2:22             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  6:48               ` Brian Palmer
2004-12-13 10:05                 ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13 17:44                   ` Bruce Stephens
2004-12-14 13:09                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-14  2:56               ` Karl Fogel
2004-12-14 14:16                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  4:23           ` Dhruva
2004-12-13 19:51         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-13 20:03           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 10:03             ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-12-14 10:14               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 14:09             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-14 14:25               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 20:19                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-14 22:09                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-15  0:12                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15  8:03                   ` Per Abrahamsen

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