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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306981 Archived-At: On Sun, 2023-06-18 at 20:10 +0800, Po Lu wrote: > Konstantin Kharlamov writes: >=20 > > Well, you see, the "sending patches" section has no mention that a seri= es is > > unwelcome. And Emacs is the unique project where a squashed patch with = many > > commits is preferred over a series. > >=20 > > If series is indeed unwelcome, it would be better to reflect in "sendin= g > > patches" section and provide copy-paste instructions for the people to > > quickly > > squash their commits before sending to ML (and I think something needs = to be > > figured out about commit messages too in this case). Because when you a= re > > developing, it is easier to separate changes to distinct commits to mak= e > > sure > > that if something break you know what exactly change was the reason to = it. > > Even > > if these commits will have to be squashed later. >=20 > What's a ``squashed patch''? When you have multiple patches squashed into one. > Anyway, patches can only be generated by the VCS if the user has access > to the Emacs version control files, which is hardly given.=C2=A0 So prefe= ring > ordinary diffs leads to more people being able to work on Emacs, not > less. How do you get latest upstream code without access to VCS?