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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293685 Archived-At: On 21.08.2022 14:04, Po Lu wrote: > Users of the GTK 3 build experience many, many problems. The most > recent such problem is bug#56869, which is definitely a bug in GTK. Is that a new state of affairs, caused by newer GTK version or changes in Emacs? If not, the GTK3 build has been pretty stable for a lot of us, so there's no point in deprecating it over an unusual use case. Or even a bunch of them.