From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>,
justin@burkett.cc, Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 00:03:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f8dfbfce-b0c4-458a-b559-dd3a61b9fab0@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plxdpsxw.fsf@posteo.net>
On 03/02/2024 15:40, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
> Po Lu<luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Jeremy Bryant<jb@jeremybryant.net> writes:
>>
>>> Here is a suggestion - include which-key in core and potentially enable
>>> by for new users.
>>>
>>> I understand it is in ELPA already.
>>>
>>> Author Justin has expressed openness to the idea in
>>> https://github.com/justbur/emacs-which-key/issues/355
>> I don't think enabling it by default is all that desirable, since its
>> popups are far more intrusive than keystrokes are when echoed, but
>> moving it to core is a decent idea.
> I second this concern, it also promotes the inefficient practice of
> inspecting keymaps by waiting for the idle timer to be triggered.
What if instead of having the help on a timer, the timer would add a
small hint in the echo about how to invoke help (i.e. press C-h)?
The interface for displaying help could be which-key (it seems to look
pretty enough), or just the current 'C-h' help, depending on the settings.
The result, though, is that everybody learns to press 'C-h' when they
want to explore what the current prefix map contains and not just wait
for the timer.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-04 22:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-31 23:23 discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01 2:45 ` Po Lu
2024-02-03 13:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-04 22:03 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2024-02-05 7:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 15:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 18:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 19:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 19:33 ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-05 23:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-06 2:49 ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-06 23:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 18:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 19:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 1:46 ` Visuwesh
2024-02-08 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 12:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 2:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 2:39 ` Po Lu
2024-02-11 12:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 12:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 20:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:51 ` Rebinding Fn [Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs] Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:25 ` discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Po Lu
2024-02-08 13:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-01 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-01 21:16 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-02 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 7:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 15:25 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-02 15:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02 16:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03 11:46 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:39 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 14:07 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-04 22:18 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-05 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 11:30 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:36 ` Moving which-key ELPA package into core - " Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 16:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-04 22:12 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01 21:17 ` orzodk
2024-02-01 22:24 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01 23:49 ` orzodk
2024-02-02 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 16:00 ` Howard Melman
2024-02-02 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 19:32 ` tomas
2024-02-02 20:16 ` Howard Melman
2024-02-03 7:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 16:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-04 22:25 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05 3:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-04 23:47 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-05 1:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05 3:52 ` Divya Ranjan
2024-02-05 15:04 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-04 18:34 ` Howard Melman
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