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([2601:184:4180:66e7:e5fd:5390:95a0:14a2]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y21sm6397975qth.90.2019.03.22.16.17.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Mar 2019 16:17:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83a7hmrevh.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::730 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234630 Archived-At: On 2019-03-22 13:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: brandelune@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Clément Pit-Claudel >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 13:16:17 -0400 >> >>> It isn't clear to me yet. At least at the time this change was made, >>> we didn't expect to revert, we thought this form will remain when it >>> can be translated. >> >> Oh! Then I misunderstood. I thought the idea was that once we have a library that can handle this well, we'd write something like (ngettext "One package installed" "%d packages installed" n), with ngettext picking between both in English and picking the appropriate string in other languages. > > Maybe. ngettext wasn't on the table when this change was made, and > even now I'm not yet sure what the end result will look like. Got it. Thanks for taking the time to explain!