From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Workflow to accumulate individual changes? Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 02:56:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87bphengwq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262397426 4073 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2010 01:57:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 01:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 02 02:56:58 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NQtEf-0007kL-Oq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:56:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54016 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQtEe-0002ep-A6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:56:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQtEa-0002ek-5X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:56:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQtEU-0002by-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:56:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52379 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQtEU-0002bu-IG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:56:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]:33101) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NQtEU-00014u-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:56:46 -0500 Original-Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so9439520bwz.26 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:56:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gAgTUcbGro6RjS4JG7NCkov6C4Q2EZmoW0z5LMtahwE=; b=dGN8hIvWvWwR+NatV6GTNady2cJMUHBcWCwRPIDQsFN/EsGYKQTUd1nJeXBGol1R/q RoDLGS2yJNJ3GXPFoA3pHa4omK7CbkHX65I8JHKj9NOr4DEaNmmdV1gHM9Vu+vT6YHNX /hv6hxy6yaYVJ5WMah7GJX2uqh4YI9H9JDFNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ksQ+fAT6y1+/fYood9zAy5AU0m/+avCuIYxfZtElZLwN5M4ic008HkX5cUJf/dqr9X Za5O6pBO1oJI+5ZM0kv8h5vbcuhgSfPWQ2szpp+o6N5u16K0WCYA3uejQUaUgxcPbLjS VJHRoo+m9SKBvfG6MFQpF6P39bh1ySyjNRu8Y= Original-Received: by 10.204.32.215 with SMTP id e23mr9281702bkd.36.1262397402333; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:56:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87bphengwq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119245 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 13:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrot= e: > I don't understand what you're concerned about (yes, I've seen the > followup which includes the footnote). Well, if you read the note, you know what am I concerned about: not the time for checking out the files, but the time to get the branch in a runnable state. On my computer, "bzr branch trunk/ test/" is ~35s, while "make bootstrap" is ~20min. The only fix for that is creating a script to copy .o, .elc and other generated files from another branch. Quite a fuss just to commit (and store for the future) a one-liner; that's why I think of having a branch for these micro-issues. (Well, colocated branches =C3=A0 la git would be wonderful for this case...) > and creating a branch is very cheap (ie, the cost of > copying the tree, which is small since you can use hardlinks).[1] As I've said above, it's not the time to create the branch that worries me; that said, Bazaar does not support hardlinks on Windows, AFAIK. > I would think this would be fine for anything requiring more than one > commit. =C2=A0In any case, I think it would be worth trying, you might fi= nd > it's perfectly satisfactory. For more serious changes yes, absolutely. > If you have a series of one-commit changes, the cheapest way to do it > would be with rebase. That seems to be the consensus, yes. Juanma