From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Option to customize the -m message flag of cvs? Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:21:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <49593E94.4030501@gmx.at> <4959CD22.7090306@gmx.at> <495B381F.3010101@gmx.at> <49633914.7060604@gmx.at> <200901061608.n06G8V4j001426@mothra.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231273308 8878 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2009 20:21:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii , Dan Nicolaescu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stefan Monnier" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 06 21:22:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LKIRo-0004ei-9l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:22:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35330 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKIQY-00034c-Kk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKIQT-00034N-Jm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:21:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKIQQ-000349-DM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:21:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60363 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKIQQ-000346-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240]:60149) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKIQO-0002Lt-RD; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:21:16 -0500 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c38so2590682ana.21 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xePMwNysbIz0NqzidYzZBOP/NqCEcGWwYGtg9j+kSJ8=; b=ZfEHFD1xZrzfBcwOMHDHMg0gX8328cvGW0RCcZp91d+gnZNnG0hRCjMreJnUwvJ8A7 NbjGlHaAsfmco+gkTPeuMEk5d4Vtww+gl8P+YG3tgZ6aVa5wUjqH4SS1vcBCLD8lEWwZ wL+leut+FQCTMdsecENy1vmVJPUnZf6DAjVDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PM+vQQ5PiHyOnZQhWPmQIcZfN5KM/oCn8FGTAxNyGLavIVaUGdTHpBgYxLh6IiMz5V UZNqVtt+szqEQeMm+K0nI/rhDbSAo/bN1TysUVdr8Lv2ClzxFbxSu6PO+SZrbachRk9m C2tcRweiAvxnfV7UVRHBR48Y5IzcEcQsamUJs= Original-Received: by 10.101.68.19 with SMTP id v19mr11981285ank.62.1231273276320; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.100.252.15 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107653 Archived-At: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 19:26, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I don't know about "strongly" but I tend to agree: -m is the right > option to use, and if it inserts advertisement, well, that's on purpose, > so it's a feature rather than a bug. I understand that to mean that it's not a problem if I simply continue using CVSNT and the advertisements go into the Emacs CVS logs. > PS: We could go one step further and automatically detect that it's > CVSNT and it supports -M and automatically use -M over -m, thus > defeating CVSNT's advertisement. But this may simply lead to CVSNT > using some other means of getting its advertisement message in some > future version. It's the CVSNT people who added -M and explained it's use. They have a FAQ about how to avoid the message, both in the client and the CVSNT server; they even distribute (or are going to) a custom TortoiseCVS that already uses -M. This is not a war, just a way (misguided or not) of increasing visibility for their chosen business model. Juanma