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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: "Dan Nicolaescu" <dann@ics.uci.edu>
Cc: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug in server-start
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:46:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0812161146t6241eab4v8ffd4d711ea2cd1b@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812161928.mBGJSQo1004840@mothra.ics.uci.edu>

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 20:28, Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> wrote:

> Then PLEASE STOP making statements about what I said when that is
> clearly not true.

Then PLEASE STOP trying to turn this discussion into another confrontation.

> (display-warning 'server (format "Server %S is already running" server-name))
>
> Given that the 23.1 behavior is different than what happened before,
> this will not help users easily find out what is wrong.

What will help the users find out what is wrong? Not giving them a warning?

> PLEASE STOP making statements here about what I do or do not, when you
> have no information to support your suppositions.  Thank you.

PLEASE STOP using that tone, and PLEASE LOOK for "perhaps" in a dictionary.

> There's a strong hint in the fact that server-name is a defvar with no
> docstring (not a defcustom).

Nonsense. The manual clearly says that you can run several servers
provided that you use different names, and before --daemon (and even
now, on Windows) there's no user command to set the server-name. If
anything, perhaps it should be a defcustom, or at the very least have
a docstring.

> I designed --daemon to be very easy to use, I want the error messages to
> be easy to understand/debug too.

And the difference between

   Could not start daemon

and

  Could not start daemon "server"

(or, 'Could not start daemon named "server"')

makes the error messages difficult to understand/debug? How so?

    Juanma




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-16 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-15  9:00 bug in server-start Nick Roberts
2008-12-15 10:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-15 10:50   ` Sven Joachim
2008-12-15 11:03     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-15 11:04   ` Nick Roberts
2008-12-15 11:10     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-15 11:26       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-15 11:59         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-15 15:25     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-15 17:24       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-15 18:27         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-15 19:16           ` Romain Francoise
2008-12-15 20:00           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16  7:03           ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-16  9:38             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 11:49               ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-16 12:15                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 13:43                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-16 15:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-16 16:01                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-16 16:01               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 16:07                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 16:15                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 16:20                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 16:31                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 16:42                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 17:00                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 18:28                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 18:51                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 19:00                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 19:28                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 19:46                                     ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2008-12-16 19:58                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 20:33                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 20:59                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 21:05                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 20:56                           ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-16 21:12                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-16 23:44                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-15 20:12         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-16 14:55           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-16 15:36             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-16 15:56               ` Dan Nicolaescu

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