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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacsclient's option decoding code
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:37:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0811120837r4a055b92w3b543d36c427ec58@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7i79x7zm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 16:56, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> You might be right.  I tend to think of `display' as something similar
> to `terminal', but they're not the same.  To tell you the truth, I'm not
> sure what `display' is meant for exactly.

Same here. I find weird (though perhaps understandable) that Emacs has
a clear separation between tty and graphics frames, but not such
between X and w32 (and ns, etc.) frames. By that I mean that there is
code which calls x-functions when compiled on GNU/Linux, and their
w32-* counterparts when compiled on Windows. That will be a problem if
someday we have a multi-GUI Emacs.

> E.g., let's imagine a w32 version of Emacs which has been hacked to be
> able to use X11 as well.  And let's additionally say that it can even
> also use GNUstep, so it can have w32, x11, and ns frames, all displayed
> on the same screen.  Both ns and x11 frames will have a `display' set to
> the same value (typically ":0.0" or something along these lines),
> whereas the w32 frames's display will be "" (or nil, or ...).
> This discrepency doesn't seem good.
>
> So maybe we should just make w32 use display=":0.0".

Fine by me. Someday, if multi-GUI materializes, we'll have to add a
frame parameter or another way for lisp code to query the GUI
associated with a given frame.

> The current display should be obtained via (frame-parameter nil 'display).

Yes. My doubt was whether "current display" makes as much sense for
Windows frames as it does for X ones.

But I don't want to insist; I'd be happy just by fixing some of the
issues, one way or another.

So, please answer these:

 - Should the "-c + no DISPLAY" => "-t" implication of emacsclient be
removed only for Windows (because it does in fact make sense on
POSIX), or be removed for good (Eli's view, I think)?

 - Do I change term/w32-win.el to use ":0.0" as argument to `x-open-connection'?

 - If yes, do we leave `make-frame-on-display' as it stands now, i.e.
accepting any DISPLAY string as valid when called from Windows, or do
we change it to accept just ":0.0" for the time being? (I favor the
second, which is simpler and cleaner: it's just removing the recent
three-line patch by Chong.)

 - Do we want `make-frame-on-display' to accept a null DISPLAY (on
every platform) to mean "create a frame on the current display"?

  Juanma




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-12 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-01 14:04 emacsclient's option decoding code Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-02  2:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-02 21:45 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-02 22:00   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-02 23:18     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-03  0:50       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03  4:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 12:12           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03 20:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 20:19               ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04  4:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 16:40                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-06 11:56                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03 21:26               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-04  4:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-06 12:08                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-07  9:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 11:42                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-07 11:47                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-07 14:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 14:42                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-10 18:22                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-10 18:36                                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-10 23:33                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-11  4:09                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-11  4:14                                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-11 21:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-11  9:39                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-11 15:37                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-11 21:24                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-11 23:36                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12  4:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12  9:41                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 19:14                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12 21:05                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13  4:12                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13  8:34                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 19:37                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12  2:31                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-12  9:33                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 15:56                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-12 16:37                                             ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2008-11-12 17:13                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-13  1:16                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-13  4:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13  9:00                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 15:45                                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-13 16:05                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 16:05                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 16:08                                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-12 19:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12 20:56                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-13  4:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13  4:29                                               ` mail
2008-11-13 20:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13 21:27                                                   ` mail
2008-11-13 22:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13 23:54                                                       ` mail
2008-11-13 20:03                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-13 20:40                                             ` mail
2008-11-13 21:08                                               ` Thorsten Bonow
2008-11-13 22:01                                               ` Thorsten Bonow
2008-11-15  2:58                               ` Evil Boris
2008-11-07 14:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 14:45           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03 19:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 20:03             ` Eli Zaretskii

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