From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs does not listen on w32 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:42:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4800D965.9080202@gmail.com> <480208C8.3030401@gnu.org> <480212F7.7090409@gmail.com> <4802249D.2060909@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208101350 2281 80.91.229.12 (13 Apr 2008 15:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel , Stefan Monnier , Jason Rumney To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 13 17:43:00 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jl4M3-0008Cb-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:42:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl4LP-0005M2-RB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl4LL-0005Ir-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl4LH-0005FN-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl4LH-0005FK-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.181]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jl4LH-00043D-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so1498034wah.10 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rck1eKyn7aTvjGumn7tpKXM/aCARTBym5ElAsYOlX+8=; b=xghJRU7HskPKOlmPNuPAC1kOVsGScCWVSaiC2A8S2MYpyFduDIf0B/UCUPkhr3DQUsGod9rADHxCDGC3wv0pCgQG9HXfQoDb8PtT8ADCQPMFe6n3a/YBlgPFDRyFZVVJebEG5OAt28hYqnDMj75mOagCJ1p2cmrsiTBKGM+iukI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W0epsGeVJ8s0FkaeLO4xY76Apzg6ZiTlmOtel8dvjnRucD1nZvH0/OudSnoxNsHcxVaqyP7jHZ/740zd/lV4VCKT7kQsTesylJoRGwqPlOigRrFYZMpEYmqtW/mC3TQlF0yMzXc2dbGvu6l9FIHKAT/Ic7/GnFEzdZzrnSwtaTs= Original-Received: by 10.114.111.1 with SMTP id j1mr5830413wac.141.1208101326259; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.115.72.13 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:42:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4802249D.2060909@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95108 Archived-At: > Yes, those are good points, but I think you are perhaps missing my point: > That WM_CLOSE should be treated more like qiut. > > That does not prevent Emacs from asking the type of question you mentioned. I think you missed my point: how? Either you want [X] to forcefully abort Emacs, or do you want it to go the orderly exit route, and in the second case, it has *no way* to know beforehand what should be run, how much to wait, etc. *Anything* can run in an orderly exit. There's no guidelines which say that 10 seconds or 20 or a thousand are OK, and afterwards Emacs is hanged up. What you want would imply creating a way to specify how to deal with delays in exiting, which is a can of worms. Your C-g example does not apply: that's a user order to abort something. Clicking in [X] is an order to exit Emacs, not to abort everything after a while. What do you want to do is not to close Emacs, but to invoke tskill.exe or use the task manager to end the process. Juanma